[Shotimes] who can help me?

[Ron Porter]

The key thing is, you better your odds with a new car. Plus, if you keep it
for 3-5-7-10 years, you will also have a much better "used" car, as you know
the maintenance history, and it's amazing how regular care and daily driving
can keep an old car "young".

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Dave Garber
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 10:04 AM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] who can help me?

Well, IMHO, 'dependable' is a relative term. If I buy a brand new car, I
demand that it be dependable in every sense of the word. When I pay the
premium that comes with 'new'; high bank payments, higher insurance
payments, I don't want to be spending a dime on repairs beyond normal wear
items (brakes, tires, oil changes, etc).

Fact is, no matter what you own, you pay. Either in payments, or repairs.
I've owned SHO's of varying mileage/condition for the last 7.5 years. None
of them have left me stranded or caused me concern over their ability to get
me from point a, to point b and back again. I drive my 191k 94 every day. It
IS my daily driver as my fianci' is using the 99 as HER daily driver.
Neither has left me or her stranded and I fully expect that to continue.
Most all of the wear items have been replaced on the 94. About the only
thing left that could leave me stranded is an engine/tranny failure. This is
very unlikely, but even if BOTH engine and tranny blew sky-high, I could
replace BOTH for well under 2k dollars. That's still cheaper than buying
another one, and WAY cheaper than a new car.

I own the 94. No payments, cheap insurance. Right now, that works for me as
a daily driver. A new car isn't on the priority list at this point and I
don't see a need for one for 'dependability' purposes. The notion that you
'need' a new car for dependable daily driving is false. Folks may WANT a new
car for this, but there is no NEED. Hell, my uncle drove a POS Dodge Omni
that had close to 300k on it for years. That turd got him around dependably
for years. His current car is little better. It also gets him around
dependably. A lot of that is maintenance. Keep up with your car, and it'll
be as dependable as it can be. That means fixing something BEFORE it breaks
(most items give warning before going south. Sometimes people like to push
it, and that's when they get stranded), and performing normal routine
maintenance regularly.

Bottom line is, IMO, you don't have to have a 'new' car to get around daily
with dependability. Some folks prefer it, hell most of us would prefer it
for various reasons. But it's not necessary.


Dave Garber



-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Steve Tatro
Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 9:13 AM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] who can help me?

You implied in a previous email that Gen 2's are not the dependable daily
drivers that Gen 1's and Gen 3's are.  This was obviously based on your
experiences, which only included worn-out Gen 2's and a brand new Gen 1 and
Gen 3.  Silly comparison, IMO.

I'm not going to argue with you.  You've proven many times that you're
always right, at least in your own mind.

I don't even think you believe half the crap you write.  I think you just
get your jollies from ruffling feathers, especially on the V8 list.

I hope I'm not like that when I'm your age ;^)

Steve Tatro
Red/Black '93 with 181k miles
Monroe, Ohio
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