[Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?

[Carl Prochilo]

I suppose, but at the time, gas prices were an issue, it was an attractive
car, and who knew about the problem?  Ford did have a program at the time
to replace the defective cams but this particular car missed out.  Plus
the car was bought used.  The point is that Ford was a "pioneer" in
defective cams in the 70s before GM.  Later on I owned an 81 Mustang
hatchback with the same 2.3L motor around the time Quality is Job 1
started to surface.  That motor never had this problem.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sat, January 8, 2005 7:30 pm, Ron Porter said:
> That's what you get for buying one of those!!
>
> (Be quiet, Dave!!)
>
> Actually, I didn't think they were that bad, except for those
> battering-ram
> bumpers.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Carl Prochilo
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:17 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?
>
>
> Ron,  You've never owned a Mustang II 2.3L from either 1974 or 1975 and
> had a rocker arm fall off the upper end of the motor at 60 MPH?  Damn
> those soft cam lobes.  That was my first experience replacing a camshaft
> in 15 degree weather.  What a lousy job!!!
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> On Sat, January 8, 2005 5:23 pm, Ron Porter said:
>> Whoa....back up the bus!!!
>>
>> GM had KNOWN problems with soft cams in the 305-350 V8s in the late '70s
>> into the early '80s. Fore those who whine about Ford's attitude with the
>> V8
>> SHO cams, they learned all they know from the shoddy way that GM dealt
>> with
>> this cam issue, and this was on engines that they were still producing.
>>
>> If your cam that went bad was a Chevy V8 cam, oil had nothing to do with
>> it
>> (despite what GM tried to tell owners).
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
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>> On Behalf Of bjshov8
>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:12 AM
>> To: Shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?
>>
>>
>> I don't know if there was any way to prove it at that time.  It may have
>> been a coincidence.  I knew the service manager so he worked with the
>> dealer
>> and GM to cut me a deal on a new cam.
>>
>>
>>> Was it proved that synthetic oil caused your cam lobes to go out? seems
>>> rather like a freak appearance to me... like using plastic windows in
>> future
>>> liners because the Titanic hit an iceberg (they didn't do that)... not
>> that
>>> I'm dissing your judgement, just seems weird to me.
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