[Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?

[Ron Porter]

Around the years of your Mustang, GM had the trannies failing due to the
loss of whale oil in the ATF, so they were then just warming up for the bad
cams that started in the mid 70s!!

Ron Porter

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On Behalf Of Carl Prochilo
Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:53 PM
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Subject: RE: [Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?


I suppose, but at the time, gas prices were an issue, it was an attractive
car, and who knew about the problem?  Ford did have a program at the time
to replace the defective cams but this particular car missed out.  Plus
the car was bought used.  The point is that Ford was a "pioneer" in
defective cams in the 70s before GM.  Later on I owned an 81 Mustang
hatchback with the same 2.3L motor around the time Quality is Job 1
started to surface.  That motor never had this problem.
-- 
Cheers,
Carl Prochilo
92 Ultra Red Crimson

On Sat, January 8, 2005 7:30 pm, Ron Porter said:
> That's what you get for buying one of those!!
>
> (Be quiet, Dave!!)
>
> Actually, I didn't think they were that bad, except for those
> battering-ram
> bumpers.
>
> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of Carl Prochilo
> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 7:17 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: [Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?
>
>
> Ron,  You've never owned a Mustang II 2.3L from either 1974 or 1975 and
> had a rocker arm fall off the upper end of the motor at 60 MPH?  Damn
> those soft cam lobes.  That was my first experience replacing a camshaft
> in 15 degree weather.  What a lousy job!!!
> --
> Cheers,
> Carl Prochilo
> 92 Ultra Red Crimson
>
> On Sat, January 8, 2005 5:23 pm, Ron Porter said:
>> Whoa....back up the bus!!!
>>
>> GM had KNOWN problems with soft cams in the 305-350 V8s in the late '70s
>> into the early '80s. Fore those who whine about Ford's attitude with the
>> V8
>> SHO cams, they learned all they know from the shoddy way that GM dealt
>> with
>> this cam issue, and this was on engines that they were still producing.
>>
>> If your cam that went bad was a Chevy V8 cam, oil had nothing to do with
>> it
>> (despite what GM tried to tell owners).
>>
>> Ron Porter
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net
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>> On Behalf Of bjshov8
>> Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2005 12:12 AM
>> To: Shotimes@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] What Cause a car to run too lean?
>>
>>
>> I don't know if there was any way to prove it at that time.  It may have
>> been a coincidence.  I knew the service manager so he worked with the
>> dealer
>> and GM to cut me a deal on a new cam.
>>
>>
>>> Was it proved that synthetic oil caused your cam lobes to go out? seems
>>> rather like a freak appearance to me... like using plastic windows in
>> future
>>> liners because the Titanic hit an iceberg (they didn't do that)... not
>> that
>>> I'm dissing your judgement, just seems weird to me.
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