[Shotimes] LEDs and lamp out

[Donald Mallinson]

having several CTS-V's for sale is proof that they are desirable, as the 
first batches were bought by speculators that are now trying to get 
profit.  Probably they are finding that it isn't quite exotic enough to 
gain in value, like people found with the Viper and other so-called 
exotics. But the CTS-V is a home run for GM and Cadillac.  As for the 
interior of the Caddy.  I think the test is that they are comfortable, 
yes, conservative somewhat and they hold up well.  I see nothing wrong 
with what they offer, it is high end materials, put together well.

I just find it funny that people will be happy to praise the imports, 
when there is a real success story in Cadillac.  With some luck, some of 
that will rub off on the other GM products, as I would hope most people 
here would rather have a strong Ford/GM product line as have them go away. 

As for BMW and sales, maybe they are getting some conquest sales in new 
demographics, but they are really pissing off the fans.  Just read the 
BMW club magazine and a very high percentage of owners are not happy 
with the styling direction for sure, and most are not happy with the 
extreme complexity, and very few like the "I-drive".  Yes you can get 
used to it, but when BMW had a dash design that was easier to work/learn 
and operate, the I-drive is there just for effect, it has no real 
advantage whatsoever. 

Don Mallinson

Ron Porter wrote:

>Buncha used ones in the Detroit area.
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dave Kegel [mailto:d.kegel@comcast.net] 
>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 9:19 AM
>To: 'Ron Porter'; shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] LEDs and lamp out
>
>I'd be more than happy to take a CTS-V off someone's hands.  :)
>
>Dave
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Ron Porter
>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:15 AM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] LEDs and lamp out
>
>
>Would have been nicer if they spent some of that LED development money on
>the interior......
>
>Much like their (misguided, IMHO) spending of billions on hydrogen cars,
>along with the promise to have them on the road by 2010 (which the other
>knowledgeable folks say is off by 10-20 years), while most of their current
>products offerings are not doing well. Typical GM misguided priorities.
>Behind in my reading, but I just read the cover story in Forbes (April 25th
>or somewhere near that date) about GM's hydrogen effort. Good read.
>
>As far as "foisting", BMW sales are on an ever-increasing curve. Obviously
>they are pleasing a lot of people. Sure Cadillac is doing better, but they
>still aren't getting conquest sales from imports. As the rap stars and
>sports guys move on to other vehicles (which they already are.....Escalades
>are yesterday's news), lets' see how well they continue to do.
>
>Ron Porter
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Donald Mallinson
>Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:46 PM
>To: shotimes@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] LEDs and lamp out
>
>Just a note that I think the first car sold in America with all LED 
>lamps was the Cadillac Deville.  Had them for many years.  I mention 
>this because a lot of people get down on American cars, and GM in 
>general, but Cadillac has been quietly dominating the big luxury car 
>market it runs in and building quite dependable and nice, with most of 
>the newest technology and yet no things like the "knob" that BMW foists 
>on people.    I do not want to get any sort of war going over what cars 
>are good or not, but Cadillac has been building quite nice vehicles that 
>sell well, don't look as wierd as some (Bangle butt anyone?) and like 
>the '96 SHO the style is growing on the public in general.  Plus they 
>have those neat LED lights!
>
>:)
>
>Don Mallinson
>
>Ian Fisher wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I always like the "instant
>>on" from the BMW's, Infiniti's, etc and felt that I
>>was braking sooner when their tail lamps lit up sooner
>>vs. standard brake lights.
>>    
>>
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