[Shotimes] Rebuilt Starters

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Good quality information Bill.  Thanks

I have replaced brushes before on alternators and starters.  And
replacing bearings would not be that much of a problem either.

The starter I want to rebuild is off of eBay and still works.  I'll
probably take it apart enough to get the internal parts clean and
lubed and take a look at the brushes.


My last alternator I had, neither I or the local rebuilders could get
the case apart without probable damage.  This was off my '97 which has
the alternator is a very bad place, down in the lower front of the
motor.

I usually don't have any problems with either and over the many years
and miles have only changed a couple alternators and no starters,
excluding the '79 Mustang which ate a starter a year,.




Paul.  


On Sat, 5 Mar 2005 09:27:09 -0800 (PST), Bill Strobel
<theamcguy@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It is not so much the quality of the finished product
> as much as it is a the quality of the core.  First off
> the consumer and the industry talk 2 different
> languages.  Here are the industry's definitions:
> 
> Rebuilt Only those items found to be worn are replaced
> 
> Remanufactured. All wear items are replaced.
> 
> There is a difference know what you are buying.
> Cores: some of the V-6 cores have been through the
> system more than 8 times some probably more.  How many
> times before the core itself is just worn out junk.
> You would think the remanufacturer would just rebuild
> each core one by one. Not so.  The cores come in get
> disassembled and the parts get put in a big bin.  They
> get tested the ones that are bad get tossed then they
> are cleaned and reassembled from the bin with no
> regards from where it came from.  Marginal but usable
> parts are used in the rebuilt starters. Rebuilt is one
> step above buying at the junkyard the difference is
> the rebuilt unit is clean.  The reman unit is only as
> good as the core.  If the core is worn out it will not
> hold up.  This is why the original brand new
> alternators starters etc last between 80-150,000 mi
> but even the quality remans last only 60-80,000
> (exceptions apply) Fact is if you have a good core you
> are better off having a local shop or your self reman
> it.  If you plan to keep the car but do not want to do
> it yourself or if you feel the core is junk then step
> up the the plate and buy brand new from Ford.  You
> will be better off in the long run when you factor in
> inconvenience, downtime, and the tow.  If you do it
> yourself and do not want to reman it or can not find a
> shop to do it for you, then get the Premium lifetime
> warranty model of the starter and alternator.  It
> won't last that much longer but at least you will not
> keep paying for the unit over and over again.  Keep
> that receipt!  The reman companies have statistically
> figured their loses, use the best cores, and price the
> original accordingly to "self insure themselves
> against the future replacement they know is coming"
> They figure you'll sell the car before the unit goes
> bad again.  One more thing front drive axles.  These
> should always be bought Brand New if available.  If
> you saw how they are remanned you would be appalled.
> Basically the noise you hear is the balls in the joint
> clicking because they have the worn the groove in the
> joint oversize due to lack of lube.  The solution is
> to hand grind the groove larger, install oversize
> balls, and cage. The original joint is hardened.
> After grinding the hardened metal is removed but the
> joint is not rehardened allowing future wear to take
> place at an accelerated pace.  Not to mention the
> groove is only as smooth and as accurate as the
> operator can make it by hand.  Shakey at best.  They
> all are the same NAPA, Advance etc etc.  I bet even
> the dealers use the same process.  Buy new if you plan
> to keep the car.
> 
> =====
> Bill Strobel
> Independent Towing
> Fayetteville NC
> 
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