[Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again

[Ron Porter]

The ATE fluid (blue or yellow) is only marginally better than Valvoline, and
it is 2x the cost

			      DRY     WET
Castrol LMA  DOT 3/4   	446     311
Ford Heavy Duty DOT 3   550     290
Valvoline Synthetic 3/4	502	  343			
ATE Super Blue Racing   536     392
ATE TYP 200            	536     392
ATE SL DOT 4		500	  329
Motul Racing 600        585     421
Castrol SRF            	590     518
Performance Friction   	550     284

IMHO, Paul needs to get better front brake pads than the Ford units. The
Ford pads are good, but other pads work far better, like EBC reds or the
Porterfields.

Ron Porter

-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul L Fisher
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 7:28 AM
To: 'Paul Nimz'; '`V6 SHOtimes'
Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again

Have you tried using ATE Blue instead of Valvoline?


Paul L Fisher

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-----Original Message-----
From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:54 PM
To: `V6 SHOtimes; Mark Nunnally
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again

Mark

On my '97 I still have OEM brake calipers and rotors, pads are OEM Ford in
front and PF AutoZone pads in the back on the solid rotors.  It works well
for
me but after a day at a track the front needs to be bled, in fact after
about
three sessions the brake pedal starts to go soft.  :(  This is telling me
that
the fronts are boiling the brake fluid.  I always use fresh Valvoline
synthetic fluid before a track day.

Kirk has finally convinced me to go with the Cobra dual piston calipers up
front.  What are the real gains and what pad should be used?  Just what is
the
benefit of the multi piston calipers?  Rotors will stay stock size.

Paul




On 10/31/2005 2:00:30 PM, Mark Nunnally (marknunnally@joimail.com) wrote:
> I'd try a high temp track pad on the 96's before you drop some coin on a
> Cobra set-up.  Try Carbotech panther, porterfield R4, PFCM Z, etc
>
> mark
>
> I was running the KVR Carbon Fibre pads up front and just some cheap
rears.
>
> I know the KVRs are not really a track pad, but this would be the third
> event I have run them at (not the same set mind you) and they bite well
> early on, but I think they lack the needed temperture range as I get a
> lot
> of pad transfer as the day wears on.
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