[Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again

[David Schultz]

I have been following this topic pretty close.  I run the 96 upgrade along 
with Carbotech XP8 pads and Hoosier tires on my 95 at the track.  Good combo 
as I can brake much later than most with more brake.  The rear pads are 
Napa's middle compound, I believe Napa lists Three different pads compounds 
for the rear and the middle works great for me.  My only complaint in using 
the Carbotech pads is this,  they need to be more rotor aggressive, meaning 
I would rather replace $50 rotors 2 - 3 a year, rather than $200 pads 2 to 3 
times a year.  But that is me.  Love the Pads tho......

ATE Super Blue is great but, I still bleed the calipers between sessions, as 
the pads in conjunction with the iron calipers still tend to cook the fluid 
at times. Theses Pads will still haul down from 135-140 mph at Road American 
with out any worry with cooked fluid, but I prefer a good pedal.

This all come down to what works for the individuals driving style.  I have 
a hard time justifying the 13" PBR upgrade, when I am out braking vehicles 
with more brake.  I am considering them however for the thermal benifits, 
but I think I can work around this with brake ducts on the 96 upgrade.

Dave
92 Daily
95 Modded

>From: Paul L Fisher <sho@paul-fisher.com>
>To: "'Paul Nimz'" <pnimz@v8sho.com>,        "'`V6 SHOtimes'"  
><SHOtimes@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: [Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again
>Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:27:34 -0600
>
>Have you tried using ATE Blue instead of Valvoline?
>
>
>Paul L Fisher
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
>On Behalf Of Paul Nimz
>Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 11:54 PM
>To: `V6 SHOtimes; Mark Nunnally
>Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Brake Upgrade time... again
>
>Mark
>
>On my '97 I still have OEM brake calipers and rotors, pads are OEM Ford in
>front and PF AutoZone pads in the back on the solid rotors.  It works well
>for
>me but after a day at a track the front needs to be bled, in fact after
>about
>three sessions the brake pedal starts to go soft.  :(  This is telling me
>that
>the fronts are boiling the brake fluid.  I always use fresh Valvoline
>synthetic fluid before a track day.
>
>Kirk has finally convinced me to go with the Cobra dual piston calipers up
>front.  What are the real gains and what pad should be used?  Just what is
>the
>benefit of the multi piston calipers?  Rotors will stay stock size.
>
>Paul
>
>
>
>
>On 10/31/2005 2:00:30 PM, Mark Nunnally (marknunnally@joimail.com) wrote:
> > I'd try a high temp track pad on the 96's before you drop some coin on a
> > Cobra set-up.  Try Carbotech panther, porterfield R4, PFCM Z, etc
> >
> > mark
> >
> > I was running the KVR Carbon Fibre pads up front and just some cheap
>rears.
> >
> > I know the KVRs are not really a track pad, but this would be the third
> > event I have run them at (not the same set mind you) and they bite well
> > early on, but I think they lack the needed temperture range as I get a
> > lot
> > of pad transfer as the day wears on.
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