[Shotimes] Leaning out @ part throttle - opinions please
Leigh Smith
leighsm@comcast.net
Sun, 18 Sep 2005 00:28:43 -0400
IIRC I've heard of that before on the list. And I don't recall anybody ever
saying that a bad baro sensor set any kind of code or gave them any good
clue.
Lee
PS: Although the Pobst book does have a way to test every sensor with an
ohm-meter.
----- Original Message -----
From: "James White" <greensho@crown.net>
To: "Timothy Tyner" <shospeedenterprises@hotmail.com>
Cc: <shotimes@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] Leaning out @ part throttle - opinions please
> Several years ago my '93MTX wasn't running well and wouldn't pass
> emissions. Idle and WOT were OK, like yours. Didn't have all that
> fancy equipment to see if it was lean or what, but it didn't set
> any codes.
>
> Tried everything. Swapped throttle body, MAF, TPS, etc. Turned
> out to be the BARO sensor. Got a new one for 40-45 at advanced auto.
>
>
> regards, Jim White - greensho@crown.net
>
>
>
> At Friday, 16 September 2005, "Timothy Tyner"
<shospeedenterprises@hotmail.
> com> wrote:
>
> >Here is a brief history: When I first got the car running, my 90mm
> MAF was
> >wired backward. So the EEC was reding a full voltage at all times.
> CE lights
> >on, MAF codes, etc, but the car ran decently enough, so that I drove
> it on a
> >140mile trip, and got 20mpg. Still, it was far from perfect, and
> I knew it
> >needed some changes. Well, once I datalogged it and saw my MAF values
> >(DOH!), I wired it up right and took it for a spin. WOT was AMAZING,
> car was
> >very quick, all readings looked spot on and no CE lights, no codes.
> >
> >But for some reason, I could not drive the car part throttle. Try
> and cruise
> >for 5 seconds and my WB was looking like an oscilliscope (sp?),
> car would
> >lean out and try to die. Well, it seemed my old fix to a HEGO was
> no longer
> >working (wire had melted once, I rewired it, but it needed a new
> one). Well,
> >I had a new harness, wired it in, got two new HEGO's, and went to
> town. Now
> >the HEGO readings were where they should be. A full datalog showed
> my LAMBSE
> >and KAMRF values were what you would expect, all other values good
> as well,
> >but still the part throttle leaning out.
> >
> >This is what I know, MAF read correctly, TPS is new and reads correctly,
> car
> >has the air/spark/fuel to make made power, and runs awesome once
> in WOT, but
> >awful in closed loop. This is what has been replaced with the last
> turbo
> >swap: turbo, BOV, WG, trans, halfshafts etc. All of those of course
> not
> >having an affect on my problem. BUT, I also removed the FMU, added
> the FPR
> >(and yes, fp checked out great), removed CC, and rerouted a number
> of vacuum
> >lines.
> >
> >So, cliff notes: WOT = great, part throttle = crap - car leans out
> and dies
> >within seconds. No CE lights, no codes. Idles good (though it take
> a while
> >for it to drop below 17:1, is this normal?), datalogs from Tweecer
> give no
> >evidence of a problem. My question to the forum, what is the problem?
> What
> >would only present itself @ part throttle, but let the car run amazing
> @
> >WOT? I await your answers (and as always, a prize for the problem
> solver,
> >how does driving the turbo at Memphis for a few laps sound?).
> >
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