[Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?

[G Kerby Haltom]

The same reason we buy most anything.  Marketing.  H-D sells  the "experience".  Which a lot of seems to be gathering at the BBQ  joint and drinking beer.  I join them on occasion because there  are occasionally some nice looking bikes, and/or women, and the beer is  usually on special.  I wouldn't buy one of those anacronistic 1914  design engines to run my lawnmower, but lots of people do.  Since  my folks own a bunch of American Ironhorse stock, I hoping people  continue to do so...
  
  Kerby
  
  

Zach Leahy <leahyz@gmail.com> wrote:  You're right Ron, it is a bad idea perfected.  the problem is that since the
V-twin fits the image, no one will look elsewhere even when it has serious
limitations, cooling being one of them (rear cylinder temps are very high on
V-twins typically)  instead they throw a some cash and effort at a problem
and try and improve it.....

i think the numbers speak for themsleves -
HD 1800cc 67hp (RoadKing)
BMW 1200cc 167hp (K1200s)

You do the math and tell me who has figured out how to build the better
engine, and who is stuck in the stone age.  I shouldn't have to replace my
engine on my bike as an upgrade... especially when the bike costs about
$25k!

Less money, way less weight, more technology, more power......  why do
people continue to buy HDs?

Z


On 3/6/06, Ron Porter  wrote:
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>  Not much different than those '60s cars!!  ;-)
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> Stiff chassis, disk brakes, modern tires, and the engines are aftermarket
> and "modernized" as much as that engine can be.
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> Harley engines are much like the description that folks use about the 911:
> "A bad idea perfected"!!
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> As cruisers, they are fine. My beef is that I am not in cruising bikes. If
> I wanted to cruise, I would get either a full-dress GW or  BMW.
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> Ron Porter
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> *From:* Zach Leahy [mailto:leahyz@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 06, 2006 3:08 PM
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> *To:* Ron Porter
> *Cc:* shotimes@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?
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> Refer to me technology used in their bikes......  So far it all looks like
> a couple guys with some catalogs and a welder.
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> Z
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> On 3/6/06, *Ron Porter*  wrote:
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> ????
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> Out of the list of 11 cars, only two have "more technology" than the
> bikes, Z06 and AMG 55. And I'm being generous with the Z06. I call it that
> way for non-engine things like the brakes/suspension/body. The engine is
> probably comparable to the V-Twins they use, which are tweaked beyond the
> factory stockers.
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> Ron Porter
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> *From:* Zach Leahy [mailto: leahyz@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 06, 2006 2:48 PM
> *To:* Ron Porter
> *Cc:* shotimes@autox.team.net
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> *Subject:* Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?
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> Nah, they are all great examples of more technology than is seen in any of
> his bikes.
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> Z
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> On 3/5/06, *Ron Porter* < ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote:
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> He has too much money??  ;-)
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> Ron Porter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
> On Behalf Of John Stout
> Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:21 PM
> To: shotimes@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?
>
> So what does a mans car say about him ??
>
> 1970 GTO
> 1969 Camaro 427
> 1969 442
> 1941 Willies
> 1933 Ford Hot Rod
> 1960 Corvette
> 2006 Z06 Corvette
> Mercedes AMG 55
> 1970 396 Nova Supersport
> 1967 427 Shelby, a 427 Cobra
> 19 '67 396 Chevy Nova
> The cars listed above all belong to Big Paul at Orange County Choppers,
> 427
> Shelby Cobra, now thats a car, and Damnned if it aint Powered by Ford
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