[Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?

[Ron Porter]

For the same reason people buy Buicks..

 

HDs are a different bike experience. Hell, my '79 XS11 Special has around 90
HP (probably more with the too-loud Kerker 4-in-1 on it). But, after being
the first 11-second bike in '78, 600cc sport bikes can blow it away today.

 

Ron Porter

 

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From: Zach Leahy [mailto:leahyz@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:16 AM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?

 

You're right Ron, it is a bad idea perfected.  the problem is that since the
V-twin fits the image, no one will look elsewhere even when it has serious
limitations, cooling being one of them (rear cylinder temps are very high on
V-twins typically)  instead they throw a some cash and effort at a problem
and try and improve it..... 

 

i think the numbers speak for themsleves - 

HD 1800cc 67hp (RoadKing)

BMW 1200cc 167hp (K1200s)

 

You do the math and tell me who has figured out how to build the better
engine, and who is stuck in the stone age.  I shouldn't have to replace my
engine on my bike as an upgrade... especially when the bike costs about
$25k! 

 

Less money, way less weight, more technology, more power......  why do
people continue to buy HDs?

  

Z

 

On 3/6/06, Ron Porter <ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote: 

Not much different than those '60s cars!!  ;-)

 

Stiff chassis, disk brakes, modern tires, and the engines are aftermarket
and "modernized" as much as that engine can be. 

 

Harley engines are much like the description that folks use about the 911:
"A bad idea perfected"!! 

 

As cruisers, they are fine. My beef is that I am not in cruising bikes. If I
wanted to cruise, I would get either a full-dress GW or  BMW. 

 

Ron Porter

 

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From: Zach Leahy [mailto: leahyz@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 3:08 PM 


To: Ron Porter
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?

 

Refer to me technology used in their bikes......  So far it all looks like a
couple guys with some catalogs and a welder.

 

Z

 

On 3/6/06, Ron Porter < <mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net>
ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote: 

????

 

Out of the list of 11 cars, only two have "more technology" than the bikes,
Z06 and AMG 55. And I'm being generous with the Z06. I call it that way for
non-engine things like the brakes/suspension/body. The engine is probably
comparable to the V-Twins they use, which are tweaked beyond the factory
stockers. 

 

Ron Porter 

 

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From: Zach Leahy [mailto: leahyz@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 2:48 PM
To: Ron Porter
Cc: shotimes@autox.team.net 


Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...?

 

Nah, they are all great examples of more technology than is seen in any of
his bikes.

 

Z

 

On 3/5/06, Ron Porter < <mailto:ronporter@prodigy.net>
ronporter@prodigy.net> wrote: 

He has too much money??  ;-)

Ron Porter

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From: shotimes-admin@autox.team.net [mailto:shotimes-admin@autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of John Stout 
Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:21 PM
To: shotimes@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shotimes] (OT) Dr. Phil compensating for ...? 

So what does a mans car say about him ??

1970 GTO
1969 Camaro 427
1969 442
1941 Willies
1933 Ford Hot Rod 
1960 Corvette
2006 Z06 Corvette
Mercedes AMG 55
1970 396 Nova Supersport
1967 427 Shelby, a 427 Cobra
19 '67 396 Chevy Nova
The cars listed above all belong to Big Paul at Orange County Choppers, 427 
Shelby Cobra, now thats a car, and Damnned if it aint Powered by Ford
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