[Shotimes] 95 MTX failing in high heat

[Edward Mazurek]

Thanks Jon... I didn't even think about ebay.

I was leary of the 17.90 one since it came from an 89. I put a
best offer bid on the other one.

We'll see what happens.

Thanks,

Ed

Jon Heese wrote:
> Yup, they're available, but they're not cheap:
> 
> Looks like $211 at Advance and $129 (possibly dependent on your zip 
> code) at Autozone:
> http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?PartType=194&PTSet=A
> http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip,77346/initialAction,partTypeResultSet/initialN,16200029/initialNtt,/initialNo,/shopping/selectZip.htm 
> 
> 
> Alternatively, there are a couple on eBay right now for $17.99+shipping 
> and $49.99+shipping, respectively:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TAURUS-SHO-DIS-IGNITION-MODULE-3-0-3-2-89-90-92-93-95_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ310068195277 
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THUNDERBIRD-SUPERCOUPE-TAURUS-SHO-DIS-IGNITION-MODULE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ250263329641 
> 
> 
> Both are used, but that would be the way I'd go if I were you...
> 
> Regards,
> Jon Heese
> 
> Edward Mazurek wrote:
>> Hi Jonas,
>>
>> Yes thanks. The problem is the hood only has to be open for a minute or
>> two and the car will start. That's why I was thinking it maybe is the DIS
>> since the crank sensor is buried and wouldn't cool that quickly.
>>
>> Anyone knows if DISs are available from Advance or AZ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> Jonas Diener wrote:
>>> Seems like it could be the DIS module.
>>>
>>> The next time it fails, you can do a test to determine if it's a problem
>>> with ignition or fuel delivery.
>>>
>>> When it's in it's failure state, pull one of the ignition wires off it's
>>> plug, and insert a metal key into the end of the wire.  Rest the key 
>>> so it's
>>> near the metal intake, but not touching it.  Then have someone crank the
>>> engine while you watch the key closely.
>>>
>>> If you see a spark jumping from the key to the metal intake, then the
>>> ignition system is doing it's thing and firing the plugs.
>>>
>>> You can also check for fuel pressure by sticking your key into the 
>>> schrader
>>> valve on the fuel rail.  Do this with the ignition in the "run" 
>>> position.
>>> If fuel sprays out, then you have fuel pressure.
>>>
>>> (Do the spark test first.  If you do the fuel test first, the 
>>> ignition spark
>>> might ignite any fuel that has sprayed out.)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/22/08 11:59, "Edward Mazurek" <emazurek at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi James,
>>>>
>>>> Since I had already replaced the crank sensor and the water pump
>>>> I was really hoping it wasn't that. The DIS is just so accessible!
>>>>
>>>> Would you know what code I would expect for the crank sensor failure?
>>>>
>>>> Any chance it's the DIS???? :)
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>> James White wrote:
>>>>> Classic crank sensor failure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Replace the waterpump at the same time.
>>>>>
>>>>> regards, Jim White
>>>>> (still not on the new list)
>>>>> '95MTX - 270k
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> At Tuesday, 22 July 2008, Edward Mazurek <emazurek at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 95 MTX just started failing when it's hot outside. It was 100F
>>>>>> here yesterday and once I got off the highway the engine starts
>>>>>> stumbling and then dies. It cranks then but won't start. If I open
>>>>>> the hood, even just for a minute or two, it starts and will run
>>>>>> again for a while.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I haven't run the codes yet but I'm thinking DIS. The car has 185K on
>>>>>> it and at around 120K I did all the 60K maintenance including 
>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>> the cranks sensor and cam sensor. I haven't replaced the DIS or
>>>>> the coil
>>>>>> pack at this point so they are original.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What codes would I expect if the DIS was failing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are those available at advance or autozone or do I need a Ford part?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One interesting point is that this car has been very reliable 
>>>>>> overall.
>>>>>> Even the AC is still factory cold and the only thing I've done to it
>>>>>> is remove a clutch shim a year or two ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ed Mazurek
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