[Shotimes] 95 MTX failing in high heat

[Jon Heese]

The DIS is identical for all '89-'95 SHOs, so unless you're just worried 
about the age of the part (and keep in mind that an '89 could easily 
have had its DIS replaced with a new one a year ago), the '89 DIS would 
work fine in your '95.

It's your choice though, of course. :)

Regards,
Jon Heese

Edward Mazurek wrote:
> Thanks Jon... I didn't even think about ebay.
> 
> I was leary of the 17.90 one since it came from an 89. I put a
> best offer bid on the other one.
> 
> We'll see what happens.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ed
> 
> Jon Heese wrote:
>> Yup, they're available, but they're not cheap:
>>
>> Looks like $211 at Advance and $129 (possibly dependent on your zip 
>> code) at Autozone:
>> http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductList.aspx?PartType=194&PTSet=A
>> http://www.autozone.com/selectedZip,77346/initialAction,partTypeResultSet/initialN,16200029/initialNtt,/initialNo,/shopping/selectZip.htm 
>>
>>
>> Alternatively, there are a couple on eBay right now for 
>> $17.99+shipping and $49.99+shipping, respectively:
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TAURUS-SHO-DIS-IGNITION-MODULE-3-0-3-2-89-90-92-93-95_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ310068195277 
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THUNDERBIRD-SUPERCOUPE-TAURUS-SHO-DIS-IGNITION-MODULE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQitemZ250263329641 
>>
>>
>> Both are used, but that would be the way I'd go if I were you...
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jon Heese
>>
>> Edward Mazurek wrote:
>>> Hi Jonas,
>>>
>>> Yes thanks. The problem is the hood only has to be open for a minute or
>>> two and the car will start. That's why I was thinking it maybe is the 
>>> DIS
>>> since the crank sensor is buried and wouldn't cool that quickly.
>>>
>>> Anyone knows if DISs are available from Advance or AZ?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>> Jonas Diener wrote:
>>>> Seems like it could be the DIS module.
>>>>
>>>> The next time it fails, you can do a test to determine if it's a 
>>>> problem
>>>> with ignition or fuel delivery.
>>>>
>>>> When it's in it's failure state, pull one of the ignition wires off 
>>>> it's
>>>> plug, and insert a metal key into the end of the wire.  Rest the key 
>>>> so it's
>>>> near the metal intake, but not touching it.  Then have someone crank 
>>>> the
>>>> engine while you watch the key closely.
>>>>
>>>> If you see a spark jumping from the key to the metal intake, then the
>>>> ignition system is doing it's thing and firing the plugs.
>>>>
>>>> You can also check for fuel pressure by sticking your key into the 
>>>> schrader
>>>> valve on the fuel rail.  Do this with the ignition in the "run" 
>>>> position.
>>>> If fuel sprays out, then you have fuel pressure.
>>>>
>>>> (Do the spark test first.  If you do the fuel test first, the 
>>>> ignition spark
>>>> might ignite any fuel that has sprayed out.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/22/08 11:59, "Edward Mazurek" <emazurek at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi James,
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I had already replaced the crank sensor and the water pump
>>>>> I was really hoping it wasn't that. The DIS is just so accessible!
>>>>>
>>>>> Would you know what code I would expect for the crank sensor failure?
>>>>>
>>>>> Any chance it's the DIS???? :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Ed
>>>>>
>>>>> James White wrote:
>>>>>> Classic crank sensor failure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Replace the waterpump at the same time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards, Jim White
>>>>>> (still not on the new list)
>>>>>> '95MTX - 270k
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At Tuesday, 22 July 2008, Edward Mazurek <emazurek at cisco.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My 95 MTX just started failing when it's hot outside. It was 100F
>>>>>>> here yesterday and once I got off the highway the engine starts
>>>>>>> stumbling and then dies. It cranks then but won't start. If I open
>>>>>>> the hood, even just for a minute or two, it starts and will run
>>>>>>> again for a while.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I haven't run the codes yet but I'm thinking DIS. The car has 
>>>>>>> 185K on
>>>>>>> it and at around 120K I did all the 60K maintenance including 
>>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>>> the cranks sensor and cam sensor. I haven't replaced the DIS or
>>>>>> the coil
>>>>>>> pack at this point so they are original.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What codes would I expect if the DIS was failing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are those available at advance or autozone or do I need a Ford part?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One interesting point is that this car has been very reliable 
>>>>>>> overall.
>>>>>>> Even the AC is still factory cold and the only thing I've done to it
>>>>>>> is remove a clutch shim a year or two ago.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ed Mazurek
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