[Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top

[Ron Fraser]

Joel
    Alpine Parts List shows some of this - Body Fittings
http://www.tigersunited.com/resources/factory_parts_list/Alpine/alpine_part_
list.asp
 
My soft top is stowed under the hard top so I can't get to it very well.
 
Metal plates just distribute the load of the pop rivets to the webbing -
rectangular piece of metal.
Not sure I have an example - I will look.
 
Velcro is on the canrails and on the soft top.
 
Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Joel Martin [mailto:jmartiniii at yahoo.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 9:52 AM
To: Ross Hulse; tigers at autox.team.net; Ron Fraser
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top


Thanks for the responses.


The rootes manual only shows a diagram for the cable tension soft top.  What
do I need to look for in a Velcro verses cable tension top frame?


Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal
plates.  The webbing is how long and how wide?  Ron indicates, I interrupt,
attaches to the header (1), middle bow (2) and then the rear bow (3) if I am
reading this correctly.  Metal plates are a mystery at this point - not sure
if I have these or not.



So if the Velcro frame, does the Velcro attach to the 'cantrail' RH and LH
which is about 24" long for securing to the top which has Velcro already
sewn into it?


Thanks again


Joel Martin



On Wednesday, August 19, 2015 11:16 AM, Ross Hulse
<commodoreblues at gmail.com> wrote:



Joel,

Check youtube for Sunbeam Top Stowage.  It shows how to fold the top on a
Mark 1A.  And it also shows how to properly attach the top material to the
body.  Watch the video and you will notice how the center webbing is
attached to the frame.99980 0 
  
If you have cables on a Mark 1A top frame you actually have an early Mark 1
frame and that is not correct.  

Ross "Commodore Blues" Hulse

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Tom Parker via Tigers
<tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:


Ron's right, I think. The Mark 1A probably used Velcro on the sides. Look
for rivet holes in the frame outer sides.My Mark 2 definitely does. 

Tom
'67 Mark 2

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ron Fraser via Tigers
<tigers at autox.team.net> wrote:



Joel
 
Most Rootes parts are over engineered for strength and longevity.
 
There are 2 tensions cables.
Are you sure you need them for a Mk 1A frame.  My early Mk 1A uses Velcro
along the side rails instead of the cables.
 
You need the Alpine Parts List to show those parts.  See TigersUnited.com
and look for the Tiger and Alpine Parts List there.
 
Notch is for webbing that pop rivets to the header and the bows with metal
plates.
 
My cover plates are Machine Gray.
 
Write ups - TE/AE web site should have one but not sure.
There was a video on the web for folding the top correctly - not sure if it
is still there or if I can find it again
 
Ron Fraser
 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Joel Martin
via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:38 AM
To: tigers at autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] Over Engineered Soft Top


Well, we started on the soft top frame for the 66 Mk 1A.  Would you say this
is a over engineered, complicated set up? 

The tension cable and retainer spring, which I have neither, where does the
retaining spring attach to?  The from collar, I believe attached to the Peak
rail.  Are there 2 tension cable, one on either side?

The peak rail or header rail looks to have a notch in the center with
several holes to hold something here - what?  The Rootes manual section O
body does not show anything.

The cover plate, RH and LH, - are they suppose to be machinery grey painted
like the frame or chrome as received from SS?

Are there any good write ups with pictures on soft top frame and top
installation?  I have not been able to find anything.

Pictures on the entire top set up would be greatly appreciated.  My little 3
stop light town does not even know what a Sunbeam is other than a blender,
so going to look is not possible.

Regards

Joel Martin


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