[TR] Ruminations

[John Innis]

It's not just the increased weight, but in some case, not EVEN increased
weight.
First, compare a Camry to something comparable for it's day (say a '50s
Ford Fairlane) and you will see the Camry comes in a few hundred pounds
lighter.  Not really fair to compare a modern family sedan (even a compact)
to a sports car of any vintage.
The other big difference is the performance of the motor for the given
mileage.  The Camry I-4 (circa 2012) will do 0-60 in 8.4 secs making about
178hp from 2.5l.  The TR3 made a (reported) 10 second 0-60 on 100hp from
the 2.2 motor in a package weighing 1000lbs less.  So you do get something
for all that fancy new fangled tech.

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Joe Burlein <floridatr6 at cfl.rr.com> wrote:

> I think you hit it on the head with weight.  Air con, door braces, heated
> seats, stereo systems, stability control, infotainment, sound deadening,
> etc. PLUS the literal hundreds of pounds of wiring to support all that
> stuff kills economy.  And stupid ethanol in the US doesn't help a bit
> either!
>
> Joe B
> 72 TR6
>
> > On Dec 15, 2015, at 13:58, Bob Labuz <yellowtr at adelphia.net> wrote:
> >
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Not so sure I agree.
> >
> > I have made over 30MPG on my 2.2 liter TR3 in the past.  87MM upgrade
> but with the stock 4sp transmission.
> > WIth OD, I am sure many have done better.
> >
> > I average about 25MPG on all my Triumphs, a 3, 4 and 6 just driving to
> car hops etc. No real long range highway mileage. My wife's 4cyl Camry just
> averaged about 35MPG on our trip out West. That is real good, but hardly
> twice my 4CYLs Triumphs. And it is fuel infected etc with many computers
> running the show and a 6 speed transmission. The only computer available
> when I drive a Triumph is in my pocket!
> >
> > The Camry is heavier I am sure and that engine will last for many more
> miles but mileage has not improved as much as one would expect. I suspect
> some of the problem is alcohol and less bang for the buck in the power in
> todays fuels.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >> On 12/15/2015 01:44 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
> >>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Randall <TR3driver at ca.rr.com> wrote:
> >>> The glut has many causes, but I'd say chief among them is that the oil
> companies have learned a LOT more since then on how to
> >>> squeeze more oil out of the ground (steam injection, oil shale,
> fracking, etc) plus how to squeeze more gasoline from a barrel of
> >>> crude.
> >> Not to mention overall average gasoline consumption per mile.  I'm not
> >> sure how that number has changed over the years...doubled? tripled?
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeff Scarbrough
> >> Corrosion Acres, Ga.
> >>
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