[Zmagnette] ZMG Roster

Thu Nov 28 23:23:53 MST 2013

Steve:

I don't think there is any correlation between body numbers and serial  
numbers.  My Magnette is KALA 13 35486, only 125 cars later than  yours.  The 
body number on mine is ZB034000, that's a 4262 delta.
I've noticed the same thing on my other MGs.  I don't think Pressed  Steel 
or MG practiced FIFO.

Lann

In a message dated 11/28/2013 9:39:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
steve at betterwitnesses.com writes:

John,

Every Magnette that I have examined has both a body and a chassis number.  
As near as I can tell from my readings, the body number had significance to  
the Pressed Steel body plant, probably to track batches of bodies before 
they  were despached to Abingdon for final assembly and the assignment of a  
chassis/car number. The body number of my Magnette is 29738, chassis number  
KAA41/35361 and a build date of 14 October  through 17 October 1958. John  
Drake attempted to draw some sort of correlation between the body and chassis 
 numbers of the MGAs when he was registrar, though I don't recall if he was 
 successful.

Steve

On Nov 28, 2013, at 7:11 PM, "John Park" <_jpark at bmts.com_ 
(mailto:jpark at bmts.com) > wrote:

Hi  Paul, 
Thanks for the “language” lesson. Always nice to have someone explain how  
others do things versus what is familiar to ourselves. What can you tell me 
 about the body numbers? Do all Z’s have one or only the Varitones? Mine is 
 something like 7595. I have to dig out some paperwork to find it as the  
problem painter failed to mask the number plate and it is very hard to  
decipher a number in  its current state. I’m torn between leaving it as  is or 
sanding the paint off to see the number. It is located on the driver’s  side 
inner fender near the  upper lip about 2 feet from the builder’s  plate. 
Regards, 
John 

From: _zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net_ 
(mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net)   [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net]  On Behalf Of Paul Barrow
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013  9:56 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG  Roster

Hi  John 
You  are correct in that they are monocoque however you are incorrect in 
that the  British Industry Motor Heritage refers to the VIN number (the KAE… 
bit) is  referred to as the Car/Chassis Number so in a sense Allen is 
completely  correct. 
Paul 

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From: _zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net_ 
(mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net)   [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net]  On Behalf Of John Park
Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013  6:45 PM
To: 'List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America'
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG  Roster
There  is no chassis it’s a monocoque. Do you mean the serial number for 
the car or  the body number? I’m not sure if it’s only Varitones that have 
body numbers  or if they all have a body number. Maybe we should do engine 
numbers too?  Just some more thoughts/questions. 

From: _zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net_ 
(mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net)   [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net]  On Behalf Of Allen 
Bachelder
Sent: Wednesday, November 27,  2013 8:56 PM
To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North  America
Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] ZMG  Roster

Something just occurred to me - it's a question that can  be answered in 
three ways as I see it: should we include chassis numbers in  the roster?  We 
can say yes, no, or leave it up to the members.  Granted that NAMGAR does 
the registration aspects of ZMG, but on  occasion it might be handy and/or fun 
to have our own casual records.  Maybe, for example, we'll discover we have 
some sequentially-related  cars. More seriously, we may discover some 
subtle mid-model changes that  affect technical concerns.  I'll propose that each 
of us can pursue  this at his/her option, unless Mike finds a glitch in 
being able to include  this in the data. It would be neat to be able to search 
our cars by chassis  number. If the data is available in the roster, Mike 
need do nothing more, a  member can simply import the data to an Excel file, 
allowing one to  organize and search by chassis number.   

This may be of little concern to most of us. If so, a  modest response will 
tell the story and I'll let it go.  It's no big  deal... 

Cheers,

Allen 

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Spring Creek Home  for Wayward MGs

'57  ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT

North  Street, MI 48049, USA

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On Nov 27, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Mike  wrote:

Howdy all,

That's a  darn good idea, updating the Roster. The last version came out in 
July, so  we're about due for a new one.

But I've been lax, and haven't  gathered any info from most of the new 
members since July So, if you  joined in the past half year, or you're an 
old-timer that never subscribed  to the Roster, send me your info now. Here's what 
can go into  it:

Your first name, middle initial, and last name.
Your SO's  first & last name. (SO's don't get middle initials - no one has 
ever  asked for that.)
Address: Street, city, state/province, postal code,  country.
Up to two phone numbers
Email address
Special-interest  cars (no 2010 Toyota Camrys, e.g.)
Services  provided
Comments

Cars are recorded like so: Year, Make, Model,  Color, Status

Colors are shown exterior w/ interior. For two-tone  cars, it's exterior 
top/exterior bottom w/ interior. For an example,  here's the entry for my car, 
an Old English White over Birch Grey Varitone  with maroon interior:

Year: 1958  Make: MG  Model: ZBV  Color: OEW/Birch grey w/ maroon  Status: 
Always a  driver

You don't have to worry about the formatting; I'll take care  of that.

For Services, people tend to write about help they can  provide. Entries 
range from "Tools, some parts, can come out & help,  limited garage space." to 
"Cold beer on hand at all  times."

Comments can be anything else you'd care to add.

And  it's all optional. One person just has his name, email address, and 
the  line for his Magnette. Other people include all their special-interest  
cars (we don't list motorcycles or "regular" cars) and some  history.

If you haven't already, send me your info now, while we're  all still 
thinking of it, and I'll send out an updated roster next  month.

Let me know at _mikesmuseum at yahoo.com_ (mailto:mikesmuseum at yahoo.com)  if 
you have  any questions. Please don't reply to the group and spam  everyone.

Thanks!

Mike  Jacobsen

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On Wed,  11/27/13, Allen Bachelder <_bachldrs at comcast.net_ 
(mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net) >  wrote:

Subject: [Zmagnette] New Member
To: "zmagnette" <_zmagnette at autox.team.net_ 
(mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net) >,  "John Taft" <_jtaft89 at gmail.com_ (mailto:jtaft89 at gmail.com) >
Date:  Wednesday, November 27, 2013, 12:03 PM

Everybody... 
...  Mike updates the roster twice a year and perhaps he can remind us when 
the  next revision is coming out.  ....

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