[Zmagnette] trafficators

[Fletcher Millmore]

ANY Lucas number of the form LL ### is a MODEL (basic design) 
designation, NOT a part number.
This applies to ALL Lucas parts.
There will be multiple part numbers associated. Sometimes, different 
part numbers are assigned for things like different length (or no) wires 
attached, or different voltage bulbs.
PART numbers may have letters as suffixes ONLY, which indicate design 
changes that may affect internal parts, but not function as a unit. FI, 
12345 might have screw terminals, but 12345/A has Lucar tab terminals, etc.

FI: SF 80 is a trafficator model, which comes in many variants, each 
with its own Lucas part number(s) AND car manufacturer number(s).
FI, there are at least 4 variants of arm finish for otherwise identical 
SF 80; primed, black, chrome, and "Staybright" - I assume stainless, 
which is the (usual) ZB form. Each has its own Lucas part number.
In many cases, Lucas superceded part numbers, as did the car makers; 
this may also have included non functional differences, such as finish.
The Z Magnette form(s), and many others, were superceded to 54044 by 1960.
This appears to be the most common SF 80, followed by one with black 
arms, 54045.
Between them, these appear to account for 75% of all British cars of the 
time, and not a few Continental ones.
I expect that any SF 80 would fit in the Magnettes - but might not match 
the other side.

There was an SE63, which was a Lucas supplied SF 80 in a self contained 
housing for external mounting.

The 6 digit numbers SK gave are BMC/MG part numbers, NOT Lucas.
Again there may be many manufacturer numbers for the same Lucas parts.
It is quite possible that Austin and Morris used the same part before 
the BMC merger, "rationalizing" - or not - the part numbers sometime 
after the merger.
The housing is simply to keep water out of the pillar, and would vary 
between cars, though BMC, for instance, might have used the same housing 
on different cars. This was likely NOT made or supplied by Lucas, except 
maybe under exclusive contract.
I know that some cars had no separate housing, as the function was 
incorporated in the design of the part it was mounted on.
You could likely make a suitable housing easily enough, heavy aluminum 
foil would do.

FRM


On 2/7/2014 6:55 PM, skirby210 at cox.net wrote:
> I've put these in a couple of cars, and somewhat got "educated" in Beaulieu one year.  They are NOT handed.
>
> #2SteveK
>
> ---- Edward Brorein <edbro03 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
> This leads to a question and a comment. It is listed as being for a Morris. Is the one for a Magnette identical? Very possibly it is but I'm not certain of that myself. They also very much appear that they are left and right handed. Things to be aware of before jumping!
> Ed
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Steven Trovato <strovato at optonline.net>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net>; List for the Z Magnette Group - North America <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, February 7, 2014 12:32 PM
> Subject: [Zmagnette] trafficators
>
>
> My research shows that the correct Magnette trafficator is Lucas
> SF-80.  There is one mounting box on ebay in UK right now:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Lucas-SF-80-12-Volt-Semaphore-Trafficator-Mounting-Box-Housing-/151088033777
>
> Of course it would be nice to find two.  This is the point where
> someone usually says you should check with the Shortens, so I guess
> this time it's me.  I don't know if they have any, but it's worth asking.
>
> -Steve T.
>
>
>
> At 11:43 AM 2/7/2014, schultejim at yahoo.com wrote:
>> Michael,
>> I have a set of traficators to install but I do not have the casing
>> they go in. Do you or Anyone else have these available for purchase?
>> This Project is One i Would like to do Soon, Before Ottawa anyway (-:
>> TIA
>> Jim
>> Harleysville, PA
>> 58 ZB
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