[Zmagnette] Your humble servant...

John Perkins zamagnette at charter.net
Thu Feb 20 14:14:35 MST 2014 

Reminds me of my shop manager at the MG-Jaguar dealership I worked at:  
Jim was an excellent mechanic and machinist, so when he decided to 'fix 
up' his Beetle he built up a 2200cc VW with an Okrasa crank, Isky cam 
and a pair of Weber IDFs.  He did all the body work in metal using only 
a little lead to hide the deep file marks, I told him he should clear 
coat it and call it done it was absolutely stunning in metal.  He 
decided to drive the car to a shop that could 'squirt it cheap' - they 
painted over a butterfly that was plastered on the hood on the drive over.
     Perkins
On 2/20/2014 2:58 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
> I dunno about some of these so-called professionals.  I think the 
> difference between a lot of folks on this group, is that we are 
> willing to admit we are amateur/novices/hobbyists . . . whatever.  We 
> are very willing to learn and listen, however.
> This morning, I was trying to help a relatively new Club member with 
> the horrid mess he has gotten into having his MGB body work and 
> painting done.  In short, one shop (Tim's), a normally very good shop 
> . . . .show cars, etc., did the body work.  They probably get upwards 
> of $10K for a paint job, after bodywork, etc.  So, they sent him 
> across the street, to a M__co shop, previously owned by a "Bob".  
> Apparently, at one time, Bob and Tim had a good "working" 
> realationship . . . I do this, you do that . . . no words spoken.  So, 
> off it went to M__co, now under the ownership of a Dennis 
> (unbeknownest to our Club member).  My only involvement at this 
> point was transporting the car to and fro.  When I helped pick up the 
> "painted" car, I immediately saw a zillion issues, but didn't say 
> anything. Eventually, the new member started asking pretty pointed 
> questions to me, and finally I pointed out (beyond the painted dents 
> and dings and  . . . .. ) a lot of other horrid things . . . no prep, 
> other than maybe 36 grit on a DA sander,  no color sanding below the 
> belt line (which he paid for), waves and rolls in fendes, filler not 
> blocked at all, welds not ground down, drips and sags all 
> over creation, but then a general lack of paint in most places.  A 
> really @#$^& mess.
> Long story short, it becomes a "He said, She said" deal. Each shop 
> claims the mess is the other's responsibility.  As of today, it is 
> being done over again, after much negotiating, etc.  Investment so far 
> is about $4500sih.  I can't believe M__co could paint over all this 
> stuff, and simply say "We assumed the car was ready to paint, when it 
> came from Tim." It's like if a dog turd was sitting on the hood, they 
> would have just painted right over it.  I think even Uncle Earl did 
> better than that.
> So much for professionals.
> #2SteveK
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Allen Bachelder <mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net>
>     *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>     <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:33 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...
>
>     Given my current geriatric state of mind, plus the fact that I'm
>     working so slowly I'll forget by the time I even correct this
>     side, let alone get to the other side, hey it could end up SPACERS
>     4, ALLEN 0. I'll try to remember to report if I happen to get it
>     right.  And all of this after being so careful to get the shims
>     perfect before packing the bearings.  What, oh WHAT was I
>     thinking????
>
>     But isn't this part of the fun?  Aren't these moments the reason
>     why we prefer to screw these things up ourselves rather than hire
>     some expert to get it right the first time - and in about
>     one-fourth the time anyway?  We don't have to tell lies when we
>     kick tires together - the truth is good enough.  And, at least at
>     my age, we can re-use these same stories year after year and
>     they'll be just as good because nobody will remember anyway...
>      Next Easter, I'm going to hide my own eggs.
>
>     Allen
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>     On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
>
>>     actually, since there are two sides:  Spacers 2 . . . . Allen 0. 
>>     But, maybe Allen caught on faster than I did, so it really IS 1 to 0
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         *From:*Steve Christiansen <mailto:schris51 at att.net>
>>         *To:*List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>         <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>         *Sent:*Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:57 AM
>>         *Subject:*Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...
>>
>>         Spacer 1
>>         Allen 0
>>
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>         On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Allen Bachelder
>>         <bachldrs at comcast.net <mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>         reassembling his MGB...
>>>
>>>         "Nonsense," said Allen, "first the distance piece, and THEN
>>>         the inner bearing and seal."
>>>
>>>         ' Guess that's what those spare FWB seals are for...
>>>
>>>         */****************************************************************/*
>>>         */Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>>         Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs/*
>>>         */'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT/*
>>>         */North Street, MI 48049, USA/*
>>>         */http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs/*
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