[Zmagnette] Your humble servant...

Steve Kirby skirby210 at cox.net
Thu Feb 20 14:26:15 MST 2014


priceless.  Two Earl Scheib stories from back in the day:  1)  Painted the spare tire in the trunk  2) Guy had a For Sale sign taped to his door.  Do I need to finish that one ?????
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Perkins 
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America 
  Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 1:14 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...


  Reminds me of my shop manager at the MG-Jaguar dealership I worked at:  Jim was an excellent mechanic and machinist, so when he decided to 'fix up' his Beetle he built up a 2200cc VW with an Okrasa crank, Isky cam and a pair of Weber IDFs.  He did all the body work in metal using only a little lead to hide the deep file marks, I told him he should clear coat it and call it done it was absolutely stunning in metal.  He decided to drive the car to a shop that could 'squirt it cheap' - they painted over a butterfly that was plastered on the hood on the drive over.
      Perkins
  On 2/20/2014 2:58 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:

    I dunno about some of these so-called professionals.  I think the difference between a lot of folks on this group, is that we are willing to admit we are amateur/novices/hobbyists . . . whatever.  We are very willing to learn and listen, however.  

    This morning, I was trying to help a relatively new Club member with the horrid mess he has gotten into having his MGB body work and painting done.  In short, one shop (Tim's), a normally very good shop . . . .show cars, etc., did the body work.  They probably get upwards of $10K for a paint job, after bodywork, etc.  So, they sent him across the street, to a M__co shop, previously owned by a "Bob".  Apparently, at one time, Bob and Tim had a good "working" realationship . . . I do this, you do that . . . no words spoken.  So, off it went to M__co, now under the ownership of a Dennis (unbeknownest to our Club member).  My only involvement at this point was transporting the car to and fro.  When I helped pick up the "painted" car, I immediately saw a zillion issues, but didn't say anything.  Eventually, the new member started asking pretty pointed questions to me, and finally I pointed out (beyond the painted dents and dings and  . . . .. ) a lot of other horrid things . . . no prep, other than maybe 36 grit on a DA sander,  no color sanding below the belt line (which he paid for), waves and rolls in fendes, filler not blocked at all, welds not ground down, drips and sags all over creation, but then a general lack of paint in most places.  A really @#$^& mess.

    Long story short, it becomes a "He said, She said" deal.  Each shop claims the mess is the other's responsibility.  As of today, it is being done over again, after much negotiating, etc.  Investment so far is about $4500sih.  I can't believe M__co could paint over all this stuff, and simply say "We assumed the car was ready to paint, when it came from Tim."  It's like if a dog turd was sitting on the hood, they would have just painted right over it.  I think even Uncle Earl did better than that.

    So much for professionals.

    #2SteveK 
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Allen Bachelder 
      To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America 
      Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 12:33 PM
      Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...


      Given my current geriatric state of mind, plus the fact that I'm working so slowly I'll forget by the time I even correct this side, let alone get to the other side, hey it could end up SPACERS 4, ALLEN 0. I'll try to remember to report if I happen to get it right.  And all of this after being so careful to get the shims perfect before packing the bearings.  What, oh WHAT was I thinking???? 


      But isn't this part of the fun?  Aren't these moments the reason why we prefer to screw these things up ourselves rather than hire some expert to get it right the first time - and in about one-fourth the time anyway?  We don't have to tell lies when we kick tires together - the truth is good enough.  And, at least at my age, we can re-use these same stories year after year and they'll be just as good because nobody will remember anyway...  Next Easter, I'm going to hide my own eggs.  



      Allen

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      On Feb 20, 2014, at 3:01 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:


        actually, since there are two sides:  Spacers 2 . . . . Allen 0.  But, maybe Allen caught on faster than I did, so it really IS 1 to 0
          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Steve Christiansen
          To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
          Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2014 6:57 AM
          Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Your humble servant...


          Spacer 1
          Allen 0

          Sent from my iPhone

          On Feb 19, 2014, at 7:44 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net> wrote:


            reassembling his MGB...   


            "Nonsense," said Allen, "first the distance piece, and THEN the inner bearing and seal."


            ' Guess that's what those spare FWB seals are for...


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            Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
            '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
            North Street, MI 48049, USA
            http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs 
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