[Zmagnette] What next?
John Perkins
zamagnette at charter.net
Tue Jan 28 11:21:59 MST 2014
Steve:
It would probably work better if you used the activated charcoal
that is used for water filtration in aquariums in shallow open pans.
Although, I've often used a bucket with a gallon of water and a couple
of cups of vinegar set in a car or a room in the house to absorb odors
very effectively - and cheap.
Perkins
On 1/28/2014 12:11 PM, Steve Kirby wrote:
> Allen, Charlie, Steve C and others:
> So, what's the next step? I've put the charcoal in the car . . . the
> "easy to light" kind. Who is bringing the dogs and buns?
> #2SteveK
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Allen Bachelder <mailto:bachldrs at comcast.net>
> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:51 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
>
> I suspect this is why we have the charcoal filters in our late
> MGBs. The charcoal absorbs airborne combustibles (gasoline/oil
> vapors and perhaps also the products of incomplete combustion such
> as old cigarette smoke. I would suspect the more surface area of
> the charcoal is exposed to the air, the more effective it would
> be, so I wouldn't just put an open bag in the car, I'd put the
> bag in a good sturdy plastic bag and go at it with a BFH -
> pulverizing it as much as possible, spread it out on large trays
> and put it the trays in the car.
>
> FWIW...
> Allen
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> On Jan 27, 2014, at 11:22 AM, charles durning wrote:
>
>> Charcoal works pretty good. My car had the smell of rotten
>> gasoline and the aroma from the desert sands. It took awhile but
>> it worked for the passender part of the car. The trunk is
>> another issue all together. For a convertable I've found just
>> letting it sit out in the sun with the top down will do wonders
>> And there is always Febreeze.
>> Charlie Durning
>> If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net
>> <mailto:skirby210 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>> thanks, I'll do that while its sitting around. I tried
>> another ol' school idea like that, when we sold my Dad's
>> (heavy smoker) car. Cut a bunch of apples in half and spread
>> them around. To me, it didn't work, but the charcoal makes
>> more sense . . . charcoal filtered, eh? Besides, if the car
>> should then catch on fire while I'm working on it, I'll be
>> better served to have a BBQ!
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Steve C. <mailto:laverda at aol.com>
>> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>> <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, January 27, 2014 1:32 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
>>
>> Steve
>> Get a bag of charcoal, open and put it in the car now. It
>> should absorb the smoke smell over time.
>> In some ways we are lucky our cars are not highly sought
>> after. It makes it much easier to build and use them the
>> way we want to. If uou can't enjoy your car, what is the
>> point?
>> --
>> Sent from my Android phone with mail.com
>> <http://mail.com/> Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
>>
>> Steve Kirby <skirby210 at cox.net
>> <mailto:skirby210 at cox.net>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm so torn with this same question. I've bored most
>> of you with the story of the orig owner, early ZA I
>> have: "Millicent Rose".
>> Gosh, what I'd love to do is save the back seat and
>> back door panels, cuz they are so darn near perfectly
>> original, and I know the leather could be preserved
>> with all that wonderful stuff. Even the front door
>> panels are very, very preservable. The interior is
>> that green color. It's "sooooooooooo" 50's English
>> Magnette, and a big part of me loves it, simply cuz
>> it is so original. The car is black, and again, I
>> love the originality, but frankly, a black car and
>> the green interior . . . . ahhhhh, truthfully, (to
>> quote Wray Lemke) " . . . not my cuppa tea" . . . not
>> in blazing hot weather like we have around here.
>> Then, there's the front seats, which are totally
>> shredded and beyond anyone's preservation abilities.
>> The material is simply gone, and the insides are now
>> outsides. So, I suppose I could replace the front
>> seats in matching old leather, dyed to match . . .
>> .but alas, then it's not original anymore . . . is it?
>> Likewise, the carpets are history . . . they have to
>> be replaced. Again, then it's not original anymore.
>> "It's only original once", I've heard. Then, there's
>> the headliner. Not a rip or tear or stain in it.
>> BUT . . . dear Mrs. Millicent Rose Thompson must have
>> smoked about 85 million cases of cigarettes inside
>> the poor thing, and I literally can not stand to even
>> briefly sit inside of it. So, that headliner
>> absolutely has to go . . . and who knows what else to
>> get rid of the wreak of cigarette smoke . . . I guess
>> you gathered I'm a non-smoker :))) Again, it's no
>> longer original, and that headliner, together with
>> the seats and carpet and "NON negotiable".
>> The overall black paint is pretty much in good shape
>> . . . except for a few spots, which I suppose I could
>> just ignore, along with dings in the front wings . .
>> . suppose I could repair and spot paint just those?
>> Then, the engine . . . which was out of the car when
>> I bought it, and obviously wasn't removed just for
>> exercise. The engine bay shows some "bodging". Now
>> we have to back up a bit too. Prior to getting
>> "Millicent Rose", I'd already bought 2 gals (and
>> the hardener and the reducer) of a sort of Midnight
>> Blue type color paint, to paint the ZB I was
>> originally going to restore, along with new, from
>> Lou, macrame front door pulls, in a biscuit color . .
>> . 'cuz that's the color we wanted for the interior of
>> that "first" car. Oh, and the Rivergate kit to go
>> with the Nissan 5 speed is already sitting here,
>> along with Allen's 1800 adapter plate.
>> So, should I "eat" all that, and keep "Milicent"
>> stock. My unbelievable, super supportive wife even
>> said "So, do the original car with all the upgrades,
>> and the color we want (blue, biscuit interior), and
>> then preserve the other one!" Wow, some bride eh?
>> T'was I who actually said something like "Not gonna
>> happen". Takes me about 5 years to do a car. I
>> could be block sanding in my casket at that rate.
>> So thanks Steven for bringing this up. I'm enjoying
>> the responses so far. My mind is made up, and I know
>> there are others who will vehemently disagree with my
>> decision, but in the end, ya know what? It's our
>> car! I'm not doing all this to please a few folks at
>> the next car show or GT or whatever. We'll never
>> make everyone happy, but if my bride likes it, I will
>> be pleased.
>> #2SteveK
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Steven Trovato
>> <mailto:strovato at optonline.net>
>> *To:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North
>> America <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net> ; List
>> for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>> <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>> *Cc:* List for the Z Magnette Group - North
>> America <mailto:zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, January 26, 2014 6:07 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [Zmagnette] Preservation
>>
>> Phil,
>>
>> Yes, I do plan to do what pleases me. I am not a
>> slave to the
>> opinions of others, but I am interested in the
>> thoughts of people I
>> respect. I have no plans for a full restoration
>> at this time. I am
>> going to keep driving my car and enjoying it.
>> I'm not really looking
>> for votes on what I should do. I am interested
>> in hearing what
>> people think of this trend in general. I am also
>> interested in
>> learning more techniques and strategies for
>> owning and maintaining a
>> car with a preservation attitude.
>>
>> -Steve T.
>>
>> At 08:53 PM 1/26/2014, mg1948 at verizon.net
>> <mailto:mg1948 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> >The question I think you should ask yourself is
>> "What do I want and
>> >what pleases me" or is it important what others
>> think of your car.
>> >
>> >I've had 21 MGs & some I tried for strict
>> originality & it was
>> >important I show well & others opinions. I
>> would not drive in the
>> >rain or 100 miles to a meet.
>> >
>> >Others, my Magnette, was not restored to that
>> level. It satisfied
>> >my wife because of a/c, and I wanted a reliable
>> driver and not be
>> >afraid of door dings, bugs, and was a nice
>> restoration but not a
>> >trailer queen or 95+ restoration.
>> >
>> >Just my opinion.
>> >
>> >Phil
>>
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