[Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)

Thu May 22 17:15:48 MDT 2014

Thanks Fletcher.

So I drained the transmission oil and, lo and behold, nothing shiny. Perhaps
I detected a few miniscule specks of metal, but nothing really noticeable.
Is there another way I can test to see if the gearbox is toast? Thanks and
peace out.

Jon M.

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   1. First Gear Clankety Clank (Jon Marino)
   2. Re: First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
   3. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Mike Coe)
   4. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (webuck1 at cox.net)

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Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:35:19 -0700
From: "Jon Marino" <jonnyprecious at comcast.net>
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Subject: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank
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OK folks,

I just got done replacing the water pump and thermostat, so I am flushing
the cooling system. I do not want to drive the girl around for any length of
time, of course, but I did want to get it moving to get the fluids going, if
you will. After finally getting the car started, I drove it around the block
a few times. First gear specifically is giving an obvious "clankety clank"
sound which goes away when I get into 2nd gear. Any thoughts? Oil seems ok,
I am a bit low on transmission oil, and beyond that I am perplexed.

Best and peace out,

Jon M.

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I think that Allen is correct. ?I have sent my counter check written on a
closed account for my portion of the cars. ?Written in disappearing ink of
course. ?When can my cars be delivered??

?
Steve Christiansen
Ol Phartz Partz
714-686-1236
www.olphartz.com
schris51 at att.net

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I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?

Steve H.

On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net> wrote:

Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks are. ?But
let's get practical, gang. ?There are 115 of us. ??100,000,000/115 and we
could have this collection for less than??870,000 each!*
>
>
>*Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not included.
?Some shipping charges may apply.?
>
>
>For our??870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
collector-cars at a value of just??219,000 each. ?I think Steve Kirby would
be a good one to collect the money. ?He's done this for us before and he's
good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1
= $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and mail by June 1st. ?Should we fail to make
the ?100,000,000 required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer
and acting chairman.
>
>
>;-)
>
>
>Allen
>
>
>****************************************************************
>Allen & Florrie Bachelder ? ? ? =iii=<
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>'57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
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>On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
>
>Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!? I have bid $12.79 U.S. 
dollars, hoping no one else bids.? This is nuts . . . . and I thought a
couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
>>?
>>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentist-car
>>s-ke
eps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.html
>>?
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 03:01:36 -0400
From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
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Unfortunately for you, that is the characteristic of a dead gearbox.
Standard "gearbox kit" was 1st gear, laygear, layshaft, bearings, 2nd
synchro ring, and gaskets.
All 3 synch MG/Mag/A/B needed these all the time. I did hundreds of them.
(same for the smaller A series Morris/spridget/mini ones) If you drain the
oil you will likely find a lot of shiny, hard metal - that was the teeth off
1st and the laygear. If all the pieces are small, you might get away with
driving it gently when in 1st/rev for quite a while, but if you find large
pieces of teeth, death is imminent.

FRM

On 5/22/2014 12:35 AM, Jon Marino wrote:
> OK folks,
>
> I just got done replacing the water pump and thermostat, so I am 
> flushing the cooling system. I do not want to drive the girl around 
> for any length of time, of course, but I did want to get it moving to 
> get the fluids going, if you will. After finally getting the car 
> started, I drove it around the block a few times. First gear specifically
is giving an obvious "clankety clank"
> sound which goes away when I get into 2nd gear. Any thoughts? Oil 
> seems ok, I am a bit low on transmission oil, and beyond that I am
perplexed.
>
> Best and peace out,
>
> Jon M.
>
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> I think that Allen is correct. ?I have sent my counter check written 
> on a closed account for my portion of the cars. ?Written in 
> disappearing ink of course. ?When can my cars be delivered??
>
>
> ?
> Steve Christiansen
> Ol Phartz Partz
> 714-686-1236
> www.olphartz.com
> schris51 at att.net
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> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>   
>
>
> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
>
> Steve H.
>
>
> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks are. 
> ?But let's get practical, gang. ?There are 115 of us. 
> ??100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less 
> than??870,000 each!*
>>
>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not included.
> ?Some shipping charges may apply.?
>>
>> For our??870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
> collector-cars at a value of just??219,000 each. ?I think Steve Kirby 
> would be a good one to collect the money. ?He's done this for us 
> before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for 
> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and mail 
> by June 1st. ?Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000 required, 
> proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and acting chairman.
>>
>> ;-)
>>
>>
>> Allen
>>
>>
>> ****************************************************************
>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder ? ? ? =iii=< Spring Creek Home for Wayward 
>> MGs
>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>> North Street, MI 48049, 
>> USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_get_r
>> eady_f
> or_a_whole_lot_of_fun
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>>
>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
>>
>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!? I have bid $12.79 U.S.
> dollars, hoping no one else bids.? This is nuts . . . . and I thought 
> a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
>>> ?
>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentist-c
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Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 06:32:06 -0600
From: "Mike Coe" <coefront at shaw.ca>
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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
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Well guys, thank goodness this fellow thinks as he does towards his passion
towards cars. Think, he?s a rare chap able to purchase vehicles people can
see. Rather than them disappearing into the world of rust and non-repair.
It?s a person we should thanks' around; otherwise most of these models would
be gone. That he wishes the sum he?s asking isn?t out of line. Someone
wealthy [I wish it were I] will come along and pay up. Now whether or not
the collection will stay as one; as opposed to being split up in sale
following the sale, is a question.
But thanks God for blokes like this is all I can say, regardless as to how
he made his lolly. Certainly he?s a clever business man: something some
people like. Others that don?t.
But hey....the cars are alive!!!
Cheers
Mike ? Calgary
Ex-pat.

From: Steve
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:50 PM
To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
Subject: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .

Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!  I have bid $12.79 U.S. dollars,
hoping no one else bids.  This is nuts . . . . and I thought a couple of us
were obsessive, having more than one car.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentist-cars-keep
s-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.html

#2SteveK

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I'm in. do you take box tops  for education? Each box top is worth 10 cents
to the school. I have a lot saved for the next school year but could be put
towards these nice cars.
Buckey

---- Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com> wrote: 
> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
> 
> Steve H.
> 
> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks 
> > are.  But let's get practical, gang.  There are 115 of us.  
> > ?100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less than 
> > ?870,000 each!*
> > 
> > *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not included.
Some shipping charges may apply. 
> > 
> > For our ?870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
collector-cars at a value of just ?219,000 each.  I think Steve Kirby would
be a good one to collect the money.  He's done this for us before and he's
good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1
= $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and mail by June 1st.  Should we fail to make
the ?100,000,000 required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer
and acting chairman.
> > 
> > ;-)
> > 
> > Allen
> > 
> > ****************************************************************
> > Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
> > Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
> > '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
> > North Street, MI 48049, USA
> > http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
> > NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
> > http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_get_
> > ready_for_a_whole_lot_of_fun
> > ********************************************************************
> > **************************************************
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
> > 
> >> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!  I have bid $12.79 U.S. dollars,
hoping no one else bids.  This is nuts . . . . and I thought a couple of us
were obsessive, having more than one car.
> >>  
> >> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentist-
> >> cars-keeps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MIL
> >> LION.html
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