[Zmagnette] Oil Filter

Peter Martin petermartin903 at btinternet.com
Sat May 24 14:31:48 MDT 2014 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jon Marino" <jonnyprecious at comcast.net>
To: <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 3:21 AM
Subject: [Zmagnette] Oil Filter


> Hi folks,
>
> I am basically trying to find out everything about this car, and I thank 
> you
> for your wealth of information. Cheers to Kelvin at Moss for pointing me 
> to
> this group.
>
> So while I wait to pull the engine and such, I decided to take off the oil
> filter.  I got this:
>
> What filter is this? In the manual I have, I see nothing like it; I don't
> see it in the Moss catalogue, either (at least I don't see any of the 
> parts
> they have in what I have). I am wondering if I want to go to the modern 
> oil
> filter adapter. My dad used to make them for TC's, and swore by them. What
> think ye?
>
> Peace out,
>
> Jon M.
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>   1. Re: First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
>      (Allen Bachelder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 01:21:17 -0400
> From: Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
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> Fletcher,
>
> Many thanks!
> Allen
>
> On May 23, 2014, at 12:31 AM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
>
>> Allen-
>> Problem with the C is likely lots of low end  + heavy feet + bad 
>> shifting.
>> Wouldn't surprise me if a lot of people never even used first.
>> I have no experience - C did not amount to much in my part of the world.
>> If 2nd is one of the gear sets with different tooth count, that may be an
> issue - sometimes those reworks were not thought out real well - Triumph 
> had
> a lot of trouble as they changed tooth design (count and helix angle) for
> obscure reasons, never clearly improving. You can use tooth counts that do
> not really fit, by altering helix angle, sometimes necessary in the
> application but not always real good.
>>
>> 4 synch MGB are so close to bulletproof in the application that they
> rarely break anything = more box than torque, though some are finally
> getting pretty loose. I only ever had one apart, a very early and believed
> to be defective, as I recall. There certainly were NO parts for the thing.
>>
>> 3 synch is just as you say. The layshaft/bearings fail, and the tooth 
>> load
> is moved to the tip = SNAP, or if used gently the teeth get horrible wear
> until there is not enough left to carry the load, then snap. 3 synch only
> break 2nd and/or rarely third when the shaft is so far gone that the gear 
> is
> about 1/4" from where it should be. If the shaft breaks, it takes out
> everything including the case sometimes.
>> The other 3 synch failure is bad crunching into R/1, which gnaws the 
>> teeth
> away from the end until there is nothing left. The design is such that the
> 1st gear part of the laygear essentially has only one tooth contact, so it
> is weak. And I always thought that there may have been some inadequacy in
> heat treatment, as it was fairly common that only one or two teeth would
> show severe wear. All this usually takes until the layshaft is worn out, 
> so
> you then get the two fail modes together.
>>
>> All comments re 3 synch apply to A series boxes too, though the later 
>> ones
> got better.
>> It all has a lot to do with using a 1950 design for another 30 years as
> power and weight went up a lot.
>>
>> FRM
>>
>> On 5/22/2014 11:39 PM, Allen Bachelder wrote:
>>> Fletcher,
>>>
>>> I've had this clankety clank experience with 2nd gear on my C/GT.  Seems
> to be a bad habit with Cs - stories just like mine abound, and it's always
> 2nd gear.  Hardly ever hear of the same catastrophic failure on Bs even
> though, give or take a couple teeth here and there, it's the same box - 
> and
> not that different from the 3-sync A and Magnette boxes. Some very
> provocative big bits did drain out of the C/GT gearbox and I later found
> places to put them back on the laygear.  As an alternative to $$$ 
> thousands
> spent on a new laygear, I went to all MGB used gears. I rebuilt it with 
> same
> at a John Twist clinic back in 2008; it works like glass now, and I wish 
> it
> a long, happy, and prosperous future - for obvious reasons.
>>>
>>> My question is what happens? Are folks inclined to run these cars hard 
>>> in
> 2nd because that's where most of the fun is? - Especially with the huge 
> gap
> to 3rd, and a 1st that redlines before you get halfway through an
> intersection?  The Z Magnettes because 1st runs out so fast and the cars
> were so gutless that the only feeling of "acceleration" (as opposed to
> "gathering speed") was in 2nd; and the Cs because there was some real fun 
> to
> be had - but mostly in 2nd. Do the roller bearings on the layshaft thus 
> wear
> out creating too much lash, hence too much torque on the outer edges of 
> the
> teeth and eventual breakage? (Wild speculation here; but some folks may 
> thus
> think I sound like I actually know what I'm talking about! ;-)  )  Bottom
> line: I've never heard of such a 2nd-gear failure on a B.  Why? Is it
> because I haven't been around long enough?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Allen
>>>
>>> ****************************************************************
>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>> North Street, MI 48049, USA
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>>> *************************************************
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 22, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Fletcher Millmore wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jon-
>>>> Maybe somebody already drained out the big bits, or they are stuck
> somewhere inside - though usually there are plenty. What do you know of 
> car
> history?
>>>> Nothing else you can do except dismantle the box.
>>>> What happens is the layshaft & bearings fail, and the gears run out of
> line, which eats them. For that reason, it is good to pull the layshaft on
> any unknown trans. Or they can fail on their own, but the shaft is always
> worn out by then anyway. You have to know how to do this without having 
> the
> whole thing fall apart inside, and it is usually bad anyway.
>>>> It is possible that somebody took it apart once and replaced the
>>>> shaft but not the gears, as the gears are $$$$$ and sometimes hard
>>>> to find. (It used to total about $75 long ago!)
>>>>
>>>> Remote possibility is a really bad u-joint, especially if the car has
> been sitting a long time.
>>>>
>>>> FRM
>>>>
>>>> On 5/22/2014 7:15 PM, Jon Marino wrote:
>>>>> Thanks Fletcher.
>>>>>
>>>>> So I drained the transmission oil and, lo and behold, nothing
>>>>> shiny. Perhaps I detected a few miniscule specks of metal, but nothing
> really noticeable.
>>>>> Is there another way I can test to see if the gearbox is toast?
>>>>> Thanks and peace out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon M.
>>>>>
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>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. First Gear Clankety Clank (Jon Marino)
>>>>>    2. Re: First Gear Clankety Clank (Fletcher Millmore)
>>>>>    3. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Mike Coe)
>>>>>    4. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>> (webuck1 at cox.net)
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:35:19 -0700
>>>>> From: "Jon Marino" <jonnyprecious at comcast.net>
>>>>> To: <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank
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>>>>>
>>>>> OK folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got done replacing the water pump and thermostat, so I am
>>>>> flushing the cooling system. I do not want to drive the girl around
>>>>> for any length of time, of course, but I did want to get it moving
>>>>> to get the fluids going, if you will. After finally getting the car
>>>>> started, I drove it around the block a few times. First gear
> specifically is giving an obvious "clankety clank"
>>>>> sound which goes away when I get into 2nd gear. Any thoughts? Oil
>>>>> seems ok, I am a bit low on transmission oil, and beyond that I am
> perplexed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best and peace out,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jon M.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
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>>>>>    1. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Steve
>>>>> Christiansen)
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>> From: Steve Christiansen <schris51 at att.net>
>>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>  <1400732578.17839.YahooMailNeo at web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
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>>>>>
>>>>> I think that Allen is correct. ?I have sent my counter check
>>>>> written on a closed account for my portion of the cars. ?Written in
>>>>> disappearing ink of course. ?When can my cars be delivered??
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ?
>>>>> Steve Christiansen
>>>>> Ol Phartz Partz
>>>>> 714-686-1236
>>>>> www.olphartz.com
>>>>> schris51 at att.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>  From: Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com>
>>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:15 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve H.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks
>>>>> are. ?But let's get practical, gang. ?There are 115 of us.
>>>>> ??100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less
>>>>> than??870,000 each!*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not
> included.
>>>>> ?Some shipping charges may apply.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For our??870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
>>>>> collector-cars at a value of just??219,000 each. ?I think Steve
>>>>> Kirby would be a good one to collect the money. ?He's done this for
>>>>> us before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for
>>>>> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and
>>>>> mail by June 1st. ?Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000
>>>>> required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and acting
> chairman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder ? ? ? =iii=< Spring Creek Home for
>>>>>> Wayward MGs
>>>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT
>>>>>> North Street, MI 48049,
>>>>>> USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>>>>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
>>>>>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_ge
>>>>>> t_rea
>>>>>> dy_f
>>>>> or_a_whole_lot_of_fun
>>>>>> ******************************************************************
>>>>>> *****
>>>>>> ****
>>>>> *******************************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!? I have bid $12.79 U.S.
>>>>> dollars, hoping no one else bids.? This is nuts . . . . and I
>>>>> thought a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentis
>>>>>>> t-car
>>>>>>> s-ke
>>>>> eps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.ht
>>>>> ml
>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>> #2SteveK
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>>>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 03:01:36 -0400
>>>>> From: Fletcher Millmore <gofanu at cust.usachoice.net>
>>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] First Gear Clankety Clank
>>>>> Message-ID: <537DA0D0.3000405 at usachoice.net>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately for you, that is the characteristic of a dead gearbox.
>>>>> Standard "gearbox kit" was 1st gear, laygear, layshaft, bearings,
>>>>> 2nd synchro ring, and gaskets.
>>>>> All 3 synch MG/Mag/A/B needed these all the time. I did hundreds of
> them.
>>>>> (same for the smaller A series Morris/spridget/mini ones) If you
>>>>> drain the oil you will likely find a lot of shiny, hard metal -
>>>>> that was the teeth off 1st and the laygear. If all the pieces are
>>>>> small, you might get away with driving it gently when in 1st/rev
>>>>> for quite a while, but if you find large pieces of teeth, death is
> imminent.
>>>>>
>>>>> FRM
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/22/2014 12:35 AM, Jon Marino wrote:
>>>>>> OK folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just got done replacing the water pump and thermostat, so I am
>>>>>> flushing the cooling system. I do not want to drive the girl
>>>>>> around for any length of time, of course, but I did want to get it
>>>>>> moving to get the fluids going, if you will. After finally getting
>>>>>> the car started, I drove it around the block a few times. First
>>>>>> gear specifically
>>>>> is giving an obvious "clankety clank"
>>>>>> sound which goes away when I get into 2nd gear. Any thoughts? Oil
>>>>>> seems ok, I am a bit low on transmission oil, and beyond that I am
>>>>> perplexed.
>>>>>> Best and peace out,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jon M.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Zmagnette [mailto:zmagnette-bounces at autox.team.net] On
>>>>>> Behalf Of zmagnette-request at autox.team.net
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:22 PM
>>>>>> To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
>>>>>> Subject: Zmagnette Digest, Vol 8, Issue 84
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     1. Re: if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . . (Steve
>>>>>> Christiansen)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> ----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>>> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 21:22:58 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>> From: Steve Christiansen <schris51 at att.net>
>>>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>>>  <1400732578.17839.YahooMailNeo at web180901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
>>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think that Allen is correct. ?I have sent my counter check
>>>>>> written on a closed account for my portion of the cars. ?Written
>>>>>> in disappearing ink of course. ?When can my cars be delivered??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ?
>>>>>> Steve Christiansen
>>>>>> Ol Phartz Partz
>>>>>> 714-686-1236
>>>>>> www.olphartz.com
>>>>>> schris51 at att.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>   From: Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com>
>>>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:15 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve H.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks are.
>>>>>> ?But let's get practical, gang. ?There are 115 of us.
>>>>>> ??100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less
>>>>>> than??870,000 each!*
>>>>>>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not
> included.
>>>>>> ?Some shipping charges may apply.?
>>>>>>> For our??870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
>>>>>> collector-cars at a value of just??219,000 each. ?I think Steve
>>>>>> Kirby would be a good one to collect the money. ?He's done this
>>>>>> for us before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and
>>>>>> mail by June 1st. ?Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000
>>>>>> required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and 
>>>>>> acting
> chairman.
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder ? ? ? =iii=< Spring Creek Home for
>>>>>>> Wayward MGs
>>>>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049,
>>>>>>> USAhttp://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>>>>>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
>>>>>>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_g
>>>>>>> et_r
>>>>>>> eady_f
>>>>>> or_a_whole_lot_of_fun
>>>>>>> *****************************************************************
>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>> ******
>>>>>> *******************************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!? I have bid $12.79 U.S.
>>>>>> dollars, hoping no one else bids.? This is nuts . . . . and I
>>>>>> thought a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Denti
>>>>>>>> st-c
>>>>>>>> ars-ke
>>>>>> eps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.h
>>>>>> tml
>>>>>>>> ?
>>>>>>>> #2SteveK
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>>>>> Message: 3
>>>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 06:32:06 -0600
>>>>> From: "Mike Coe" <coefront at shaw.ca>
>>>>> To: "List for the Z Magnette Group - North America"
>>>>>  <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>> Message-ID: <F56DF863D69D4638A841A3B65630D172 at OwnerHP>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well guys, thank goodness this fellow thinks as he does towards his
>>>>> passion towards cars. Think, he?s a rare chap able to purchase
>>>>> vehicles people can see. Rather than them disappearing into the world
> of rust and non-repair.
>>>>> It?s a person we should thanks' around; otherwise most of these
>>>>> models would be gone. That he wishes the sum he?s asking isn?t out
>>>>> of line. Someone wealthy [I wish it were I] will come along and pay
>>>>> up. Now whether or not the collection will stay as one; as opposed
>>>>> to being split up in sale following the sale, is a question.
>>>>> But thanks God for blokes like this is all I can say, regardless as
>>>>> to how he made his lolly. Certainly he?s a clever business man:
>>>>> something some people like. Others that don?t.
>>>>> But hey....the cars are alive!!!
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Mike ? Calgary
>>>>> Ex-pat.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Steve
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 6:50 PM
>>>>> To: zmagnette at autox.team.net
>>>>> Subject: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>>
>>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!  I have bid $12.79 U.S.
>>>>> dollars, hoping no one else bids.  This is nuts . . . . and I
>>>>> thought a couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Dentist-
>>>>> cars-keep
>>>>> s-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-MILLION.html
>>>>>
>>>>> #2SteveK
>>>>>
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>>>>> Message: 4
>>>>> Date: Thu, 22 May 2014 6:51:46 -0700
>>>>> From: <webuck1 at cox.net>
>>>>> To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America
>>>>> <zmagnette at autox.team.net>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] if I had a 100 million plus pounds . . .
>>>>> Message-ID: <20140522095146.7HTT8.605044.imail at fed1rmwml302>
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>>>>>
>>>>> I'm in. do you take box tops  for education? Each box top is worth
>>>>> 10 cents to the school. I have a lot saved for the next school year
>>>>> but could be put towards these nice cars.
>>>>> Buckey
>>>>>
>>>>> ---- Steve Hanegan <steve at betterwitnesses.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm in... do you take Green Stamps?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve H.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:24 PM, Allen Bachelder <bachldrs at comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, he's a cosmetic dental surgeon. That's where the big bucks
>>>>>>> are.  But let's get practical, gang.  There are 115 of us.
>>>>>>> ?100,000,000/115 and we could have this collection for less than
>>>>>>> ?870,000 each!*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Federal, state, and local taxes, transfer and title fees not
> included.
>>>>> Some shipping charges may apply.
>>>>>>> For our ?870,000 contributions, each of us would receive 3.97
>>>>> collector-cars at a value of just ?219,000 each.  I think Steve
>>>>> Kirby would be a good one to collect the money.  He's done this for
>>>>> us before and he's good at it. Make your checks out to Steve for
>>>>> $1,400,000.00 US (remember ?1 = $1.61) nonrefundable deposit and
>>>>> mail by June 1st.  Should we fail to make the ?100,000,000
>>>>> required, proceeds to be split between ZMG acting treasurer and acting
> chairman.
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ****************************************************************
>>>>>>> Allen & Florrie Bachelder       =iii=<
>>>>>>> Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs
>>>>>>> '57 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049, USA
>>>>>>> http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs
>>>>>>> NAMGAR GT39 - REGISTER TODAY!
>>>>>>> http://www.namgar.com/events/article/gt-39_ottawa_ontario/gt-39_g
>>>>>>> et_
>>>>>>> ready_for_a_whole_lot_of_fun
>>>>>>> *****************************************************************
>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>> **************************************************
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On May 21, 2014, at 8:50 PM, Steve wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Who sez there?s no money in dentistry!  I have bid $12.79 U.S.
>>>>>>>> dollars,
>>>>> hoping no one else bids.  This is nuts . . . . and I thought a
>>>>> couple of us were obsessive, having more than one car.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630564/Vroom-view-Denti
>>>>>>>> st-
>>>>>>>> cars-keeps-enormous-warehouses-selling-450-classic-vehicles-100-
>>>>>>>> MIL
>>>>>>>> LION.html
>>>>>>>>  #2SteveK
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