RE: Paint Jobs and Update

From: Jarrid Gross (Yorba Linda, CA) (GROSS(at)unit.com)
Date: Mon Jul 14 1997 - 18:12:00 CDT


From: Chris S. Mottram(at)ECCI on 07/12/97 07:44 PM

>I stopped by the local Cruiser Restoration guy who always has 50's
American
>Iron under restoration. I had him give me a 5 minute ballpark estimate
on
>the Alpine (strait, very little surface rust....). He said it would be
>about $2,000 (US) and that the paint he would use cost $500. It's PPG
(a
>two aprt paint with hardener). He would also clear coat to make it last
a
>long time.
>Can somebody give me a quick overview of auto paints? i.e. general
ranking
>of the most comon types. The guy mention being able to get a Maaco
paint
>job much cheaper but it is enamel and the prep work wouldn't be as
>thorough. I intend on keeping this car a long time so I don't feel bad
>about putting a paint job on the car that costs more. I want a nice
>durable coating to keep the rust off!

I would not reccommend Maaco, or Earl Schieb or any other of the
cheesie paint your windows free gang.

I had Maaco paint my truck about 5 years ago, and the truck is so
oxidized now, that you honestly cant tell the difference if the car is
clean or dirty.

I would not pay less than $700 for the job, knowing today what a $300
job gets you.

As to the cost of a PPG paint job, it would be an acrylic enamel, and
would really cost $200 primer and all.

Also available are the base coat/clear coat system, where the
base coat is a pigment rich/gloss poor coat, which is topped off
with a glossy clear top coat. This will cost about $100 more.

I painted my Alpine 2 years ago and used Dupont acrylic enamel,
This was a 3 part system as would be the PPG.

I wouldnt recommend it, but I did it myself "the paint", in a friends
garage.
The paint looks good, but took a lot of sanding to get out the peel.
"I used the wrong temperature thinner".

Dont get a standard "enamel" paint job. This is the cheapest paint
available, and can not be sanded or rubbed. I only hope it not still
available, or Earl Schieb will surely be using it.

I dont know what your local regulations are regarding the
availability of paints, but...

When I bought all my supplies 2 years ago "here is California", the
latest rage was that the local EPA, was requiring the conversion of
the paints from the low VOC petro paints to the even lower VOC
water based paints. The proprieter of the shop said that the quality
and longevity of these new paints really stunk, and that if it all came
to pass, he'd be out of buisiness.

I noticed recently, that he was exactly that "out of buisiness"
after 30 years of selling auto paint.

Did the EPA succeed?

Jarrid Gross



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