Re: Tranny Removal

tsmith(at)coresys.net
Fri, 11 Dec 1998 14:49:21 -0500


I didn't have to pull the engine. I didn't lower the back of the motor much to get it out. I had to really lower it to get the trans back in. I only disconnected the throttle linkage and loosened the mounts to lower it. This is a job for ramps and two floor jacks. Drive the car up on the ramps. Use the first jack to support the back of the engine. Use a piece of wood that straddles the back of the oil pan. The pan will bow if you push on it's bottom. If a piece of wood is wider than the pan at the back the jack will push on the wood. The wood will lift and stress is placed on the edges of the pan under the vertical sides. This is the strongest point. Use the other jack under the transmission. You can move up and down and roll back and forward. Take the shift linkage off the top of the trans. It makes it easier to remove and replace.

While you've got the trans out you should clean and scrape the underside of the tunnel and under coat while you have a chance. You'll be glad you did. You may want to replace the u-joints in the drive shaft since it's out too. Paint it real nice since it's the last thing to be put back.

Rob Carpenter also suggested to me I take the rear end apart while it's all apart. I pass this advice on to you. (never got any bad advice here) I'm glad he did. He found loose stuff in his. I just tightened everything and checked for wear then replaced the oil. The manuals tell you what kind of gear wear to expect. Make sure you use hypoid gear oil. 80-90 weight. I think it's all hypoid now.

Terry Smith '67 Series V

-----Original Message----- From: Jay Laifman <Jay_Laifman(at)countrywide.com> To: alpines(at)autox.team.net <alpines(at)autox.team.net> Date: Friday, December 11, 1998 12:23 PM Subject: Tranny Removal

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>A couple of years ago, I asked the same questions and did remove the
>transmission without pulling the engine. If I were to do it again, I'd
>just pull the dang engine. The only good thing about not pulling the
>engine was that I did not need an engine hoist. On the other hand, by the
>time you finish loosening or taking off everything you have to take off to
>allow the engine to rotate back, you are pretty much ready to pull the
>engine (see below). MOST IMPORTANTLY, I had one bitch of a time balancing
>the engine and the transmission both to pull back the transmission and then
>to try to line it up to put it back on without damaging the first motion
>shaft. And, I was very unhappy about how problematic it was to support the
>dangling engine and transmission.
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>After doing everything to rotate the engine, this is all that is left to go
>all the way and pull the engine: disconnect (1) the oil cooler, if fitted,
>(2) the oil pressure guage line, (3) the fuel line and (4) the wires to the
>alternator. Less than 5 minutes of time, yet it save you all sorts of
>grunts and snorts in dealing with a very heavy, oily transmission on a
>strange angle.
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>Now, if you insist on avoiding pulling the engine (as I did) here are a few
>other suggestions I got (and did) when I asked: (1) remove the radiator or
>take off the fan so that the fan does not rotate into the radiator, (2) if
>you just take off the fan, remove the hoses to the radiator because they
>WILL stop the engine from rotating enough, (3) disconnect the throttle
>mechanism (unless you have a cable set up), (4) loosen the front motor
>mounts so that all the twist does not come at the expense of the rubber
>(let it screw up the threads instead - ie a lose-lose situation), and (5) I
>found I had to remove the valve cover to get enough rotation for the tranny
>to clear.
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>Also, be very careful on supporting the rear of the engine. I'm not sure
>what to suggest. The rear of the oil pan is angled, so you really can't
>get a good spot for full support. And be darn sure you clean off any oil
>so that whatever you use doesn't just slip right off.
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> Now, are you sure you don't want to just pull the engine? Even now it
>sure sounds "easier" to not pull the engine. But, as I said, I think I'll
>pull the engine next time.
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