Re: Ian's generator problem

From: Ron Tebo (tebomr(at)cadvision.com)
Date: Mon May 01 2000 - 08:08:02 CDT


jumpin'jan wrote:

> Hey everyone,
> I hope all had a nice Sunday today. Ian came over with his Harrington
> "A" to change his old shocks for some new Konis and to fix his
> non-charging generator problem. Well, let me run down as to what we
> tried. First, I tried to polarize the generator by placing a jumper from
> the field terminal on the regulator ("F") to the battery ("A") terminal,
> "momentarily". Got a spark and asked Ian to start the engine and check
> the amp meter. It didn't work. Now, after reading in a old Peterson
> publication from '69 (one that I bought long ago), it said to polarized
> the generator by using the Amp/Gen terminal (which is different then
> what everyone said to do). So I went and did that, but still didn't
> work. We removed the regulator and cleaned the contacts and then did
> some trouble shooting. First, with the engine running, I energized the
> field with a jumper connected from the battery "A" terminal. The amp
> meter deflected to indicate the generator was charging. Then removed the
> jumper (normal operation again), observing the actual relay movements,
> the field relay was closing and opening depending on engine speed, which
> seemed normal. The regulator relay seemed to function normal too, but no
> charging. But, when I jump the battery to the field terminal on the
> regulator, the generator started charging; Remove the jumper, no
> charging. So there still is something not right here. Any ideas?
> Jan
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Jan:

A couple of things I would like to know is whether we are really dealing with a
good battery and whether the fan belt is good and properly adjusted. A glazed
and slipping belt could cause some of these problems and and a sulphated battery
could, as well.

However, I looked up polarizing methods in an old text and for a field grounded
internally generator (which I believe ours are) it says (in CAPS) " NEVER APPLY
BATTERY VOLTAGE TO THE FIELD TERMINAL OF THE REGULATOR. TO DO SO WILL DESTROY
THE REGULATOR. REMOVE THE BAT AND FIELD LEADS AND THEN SCRATCH TOGETHER"
This may be part of the problem, since some may have been telling you to
polarize for a generator with an external field ground in which you jumper
briefly between BAT. and GEN (ARM) terminals on your regulator without
disconnecting. Also, as I mentioned before, all of this is supposed to be done
"BEFORE STARTING ENGINE" (their caps).

Let us know how it all works out!

Ron Tebo



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