Re: Fuel shortage

From: Jeff Howarth (jeff(at)v8tiger.demon.co.uk)
Date: Fri Sep 15 2000 - 01:30:04 CDT


HI Steve,

Interestingly, one of our senior politicians (Steven Byers) was keen to
point out that the current government was only taking 76% of the fuel
price as taxation as opposed to 78% by the previous government. Shame he
forgot to work out that 76% of $6 a gallon is actually a lot more cash
than 78% of $5 a gallon. But then where would politicians be
without the world of statistics !

Jeff

In message <39C145EE.868800BC(at)ix.netcom.com>, SJC Worldwide
<rootes(at)ix.netcom.com> writes
>
>
>Steve Laifman wrote:
>
>> JACranwell(at)cs.com wrote:
>>
>> > It would be interesting to see the sort of revolt you'd have in the US,
>> > should your price get to +/- $5/gallon, which is roughly what it is over
>here
>> > right now. Some crazies have been paying $20/gallon in the frenzy to find
>> > fuel the last few days.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> >
>> > Julian Cranwell
>>
>
>Here's some gas politics for the list. Historically, when fuel shortages show
>up,
>it's almost always not that there isn't enough fuel, it's because of
>distribution
>problems, usually brought on by stupid government regulations, as in our fuel
>crisis
>in the 1970's when the geniuses in Washington made it illegal for gas companies
>to
>distribute fuel from states with an over supply, to states with an under supply.
>The
>other reason these show up is due to over regulation and heavy taxes, as the
>U.K. is
>now experiencing.. The U.K. is one of the world's larger oil producers and the
>excessive price of fuel, which has caused the current "trucker revolt" there
>comes
>from over taxation, not under supply. If the free market were allowed to
>determine
>fuel prices in the U.K., you wouldn't pay any more there for a gallon of
>gas/petrol
>than you do here in the U.S. And remember, the government makes as much or more
>"profit" (taxes) per gallon of gas than do the oil companies that produce it.
>And
>no, I don't work for an oil company.
>
>I'm especially interested in this now since I'm just about ready to plunk down
>my
>$$$ for my 320 HP Tiger engine and 5 speed and I don't imagine my fuel
>consumption
>is going to go down too far!
>
>Steve Sage
>

-- 
Jeff Howarth

kKcw5Ewdn(at)v8tiger.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:33:08 +0100 To: Pete Stanisavljevich <pete_stanisavljevich(at)coxtarget.com> Cc: alpines(at)autox.team.net, tigers(at)autox.team.net From: Jeff Howarth <jeff(at)v8tiger.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Fuel shortage References: <RUlVfSAaGBw5EwOc(at)v8tiger.demon.co.uk> <39C0C3E7.51C0D4FE(at)coxtarget.com> In-Reply-To: <39C0C3E7.51C0D4FE(at)coxtarget.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 U <AtO4wImJMVcyZ6paj3EPpfaHR3> Sender: owner-alpines(at)autox.team.net Reply-To: Jeff Howarth <jeff(at)v8tiger.demon.co.uk>

Hi Peter,

thanks for the information.

Leaded gas is also now generally unavailable over here. The government allowed a 0.5% of fuel to be leaded and a small number of gas stations are able to sell it. Fortunately, the one a mile form my home has it which means I don't have to modify the heads on my Sunbeam. But then it is for sale at a mere $6 a gallon - I forgot to mention the exchange rate on fuel - 1 Imperial gallon is 1.19 US gallons so maybe things aren't so bad ????

I guess soon a used 4 barrel Holley will be worth more that a new one, so long as the float chambers are full !

I queued for over an hour today to fill up the gas guzzler with $75 worth of fuel which will last around 300 miles. - probably used $10 worth of fuel moving up the queue !

Jeff

In message <39C0C3E7.51C0D4FE(at)coxtarget.com>, Pete Stanisavljevich <pete_stanisavljevich(at)coxtarget.com> writes >Jeff, I remember reading a paper in Scientific American eons ago about the >affects of lead on human development, and they disputed the claim of the leaded >gasoline affect on young children. As I remember, the children showing affects >of lead poisoning also had ingested lead based paint chips from older buildings >where they lived. > >At any rate, leaded gas is history in the US so there is no point in reviving >the debate. > >As for the affects of leaded 'petrol' on catalytics, I owned a '79 VW Rabbit >that contained a section in the service manual on how to rended the car ready >for leaded fuel operation. The manual (The car is mercifully long gone, the >manual I still own) states that the lead plugs up the pores in the honeycomb >material in the converter. > >Their solution? Remove the converter from the car, and using a large hammer >strike the converter repeatly to break up the honeycomb and then after shaking >the pieces out of the converter reinstalling the empty can. > >A lot of the lead substitutes in the US state on the bottle 'Safe for Catalytic >Converters', but then again - Why would you run a lead substitute in a lead free >ready car? > >Peter S. >B9471799 > > >Jeff Howarth wrote: > >> WOW fuel is only $6 per Gallon so why are they complaining over here... >> >> Well I guess most of you may have seen the news about fuel in Europe and >> the UK. >> >> Well I have a question for the lists : >> >> I know you have not had leaded fuel in the US for a few years but >> Leaded fuel is known to have killed 'cat'alytic converters - I seem to >> recall reading it reacted with the Platinum coating) >> >> Over in the UK we now have LEAD REPLACEMENT PETROL (LRP), >> >> Does that also kill the 'cat' or is it safe to use ??? I assume by LRP >> they define it as having no lead in it. DO the chemicals they use to >> replace the lead still effect the catalyst ? >> >> Any chemists around ? >> >> Oh well, at least the Tiger has a couple of gallons in the tank, that >> should be good for at least getting the engine warm and get me to the >> nearest empty gas station 8-) >> >> thanks >> -- >> Jeff Howarth >

-- Jeff Howarth



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