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Re: More ABS griping - BE CAREFUL

To: bholland@hayes.ds.adp.com, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: More ABS griping - BE CAREFUL
From: Thomas - Sweden <csp311@telia.com>
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:48:14 +0200
I always end up putting the fuse back
because the brakes are always better
with ABS than without. It's worth a try
for those who think all technological
evolution is something bad. Try it where
it wont bother other traffic.

One car that I tried it did not start without
the fuse and if I pulled the fuse with the
engine running, the shifter was locked in park.
Then I started the car, set the shifter to
neutral and pulled the fuse. The car was
limited to 50 mph. Low tech system?
I dont think so.

Some manufacturers (no names mentioned)
have smaller calipers and rotors on cars with
ABS than without. Then ABS become a way
to sell more cars than actually doing anything
for the safety.

Thomas

Brian Hollands wrote:

> Danger.  Don't just cut power to these systems without understanding EXACTLY
> what you are doing first.  Thomas' suggestion should work on the less
> sophisticated systems but you should talk to a tech who has been factory
> trained on the particular system first.
> One more BMW story.  While I was at Kelly BMW in Columbus last month the
> told me they had a guy with a new Z3 who had been driving along and had the
> car do 180 on him for no apparent reason.  The traction control had sensed a
> spin (incorrectly) and applied brakes to one rear wheel to correct which
> actually caused the spin.  After looking at the car they determined that the
> aftermarket alarm system the guy had installed by some stereo shop had it's
> power supply wired into the same circuit with the steering angle sensor.
> That cause a variation in the resistance the ECU saw from the steering angle
> sensor which caused the system to think the steering wheel had suddenly been
> moved violently to one direction which would have caused a spin had that
> actually been the case.  Point is this guy could have been killed (or killed
> someone else) because the "trained" people who installed his aftermarket
> alarm didn't understand that they were altering other systems on the car.
> If you're going to mess with potentially safety related stuff just be damn
> sure that you know exactly what you're doing before you do it.
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> If you dont like ABS brakes, why not remove the
> fuse for the ABS control unit? Then you will have
> normal brakes without ABS.
>
> Thomas

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