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Re: anyone have this titan problem

To: "Tom @ Datsun2000" <tom@datsun2000.com>,
Subject: Re: anyone have this titan problem
From: Ronnie Day <rday@hot.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 14:04:48 -0600
I wonder how much warpage, if any, is caused buy the guys at the tire stores
cranking the lug nut torque to 80 lb/ft in a single step? Think about it,
you've got four or five lugs and they tighten one straight to 80 followed by
the rest. They get a bit miffed because it slows them down, but I stand
there and make them do it in three steps, 30 60 and then 80. Am I paranoid?
I prefer the term picky.  ;>)

Am I sure it makes any difference? No, but it certainly doesn't hurt,
either. We don't run anything else held down by multiple fasteners, like
heads, to their max torque in one step. Why should wheels be any different.
Having one nut tightened all the way and the others not at all may not be
good for the mounting surfaces on the wheels either.

FWIW,
Ron D


> Tom

> Ford has the same problem if you replace the brakes and turn the rotors
> instead of replacing them.  In a few thousand miles you will get a nice
> jerking stop whenever you apply the brakes.
> 
> This is a nice feature in a luxury ground transportation car.  You spend
> $560.00 for a four wheel brake job, including turning the disks, and then go
> back in 5-10,000 miles (one month or less) and have new rotors installed.  I
> suspect that the disks are not designed to properly dissipate heat and just
> warp from excess heat caused by normal use.  In truth this is the only real
> maintenance problem I have seen in these cars.
> 
> Now that our 2003 models have exceeded 200,000 miles they are driving just
> fine with a minimum of maintenance required.  Even the 2002 with well over
> 300,000 is a good driving car with only slightly higher maintenance needs.
> Unlike the 6" longer (factory option) 2003's, the standard size 2002 can be
> fun in corners when I need to get there quickly without a passenger in the
> car.....
> 
> Before you think I am getting on Ford, I won't even start on the two 2004
> GMC Denali's I drive....  Now I understand why we don't see many Cadillac's
> in ground transportation service.  Clients with late model Mercedes are
> complaining about the amount of time their cars are spending in the dealers
> garage instead of theirs.



> Ron
> 
> my new Nissan Titan Truck has a brake warpage problem and 3rd time into the
> dealer
> to change out parts,  but problem still exists,, the Rotors heat up and warp
> 
> brakes are good but near end of stopping just grab and fade ,,  don't know
> why
> Nissan with all their good past record can't find a fix for this,,,






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