This is a frequently re-occurring thread (rotor warp and causes) in the
Honda NGs.
In addition to a failure to progressively tighten and cross-tighten,
what makes you think they use less than "max" on the air gun as a torque
setting? ("120 ft lbs covers all the bases, right? I usually tighten
'em to the yield, then back 'em off half a turn.")
- Bob Mann
Ronnie Day wrote:
>I wonder how much warpage, if any, is caused buy the guys at the tire stores
>cranking the lug nut torque to 80 lb/ft in a single step? Think about it,
>you've got four or five lugs and they tighten one straight to 80 followed by
>the rest. They get a bit miffed because it slows them down, but I stand
>there and make them do it in three steps, 30 60 and then 80. Am I paranoid?
>I prefer the term picky. ;>)
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>Am I sure it makes any difference? No, but it certainly doesn't hurt,
>either. We don't run anything else held down by multiple fasteners, like
>heads, to their max torque in one step. Why should wheels be any different.
>Having one nut tightened all the way and the others not at all may not be
>good for the mounting surfaces on the wheels either.
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>FWIW,
>Ron D
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>>Ford has the same problem if you replace the brakes and turn the rotors
>>instead of replacing them. In a few thousand miles you will get a nice
>>jerking stop whenever you apply the brakes.
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>>This is a nice feature in a luxury ground transportation car. You spend
>>$560.00 for a four wheel brake job, including turning the disks, and then go
>>back in 5-10,000 miles (one month or less) and have new rotors installed. I
>>suspect that the disks are not designed to properly dissipate heat and just
>>warp from excess heat caused by normal use. In truth this is the only real
>>maintenance problem I have seen in these cars.
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>>Now that our 2003 models have exceeded 200,000 miles they are driving just
>>fine with a minimum of maintenance required. Even the 2002 with well over
>>300,000 is a good driving car with only slightly higher maintenance needs.
>>Unlike the 6" longer (factory option) 2003's, the standard size 2002 can be
>>fun in corners when I need to get there quickly without a passenger in the
>>car.....
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>>Before you think I am getting on Ford, I won't even start on the two 2004
>>GMC Denali's I drive.... Now I understand why we don't see many Cadillac's
>>in ground transportation service. Clients with late model Mercedes are
>>complaining about the amount of time their cars are spending in the dealers
>>garage instead of theirs.
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>>my new Nissan Titan Truck has a brake warpage problem and 3rd time into the
>>dealer
>>to change out parts, but problem still exists,, the Rotors heat up and warp
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>>brakes are good but near end of stopping just grab and fade ,, don't know
>>why
>>Nissan with all their good past record can't find a fix for this,,,
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