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Re: A reply for MR O'Driscoll

To: Russ Moore <rem9@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: A reply for MR O'Driscoll
From: Susan and John Roper <vscjohn@huntnet.net>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 11:11:55 -0600
Amen.  John

Russ Moore wrote:

> Okay! Right, now you've buggered it.
>
> Stop irritating the folks on the other side of the pond. They don't
> understand the new wave of pseudo political correctness choking the US.
> Actually most of us don't and don't want to. Also, remember what happened
> when we spilled a little tea in the harbor. They REALLY got pissed. Lighten
> up. As has been always an option, if you don't want to be offended by some
> ones' posting just delete or don't read it.
>
> The intent of the FOT list was to get away from some of the hostile
> exchanges so much a part of other mail groups. Personally I find the
> historic information quite fascinating. In any case, lighten up and get
> with the program. There is a better forum for this. If anyone calls you an
> ass, it's not PC, they of course should at least call you Dr. Ass out of
> respect to be truly politically correct.
>
> Dr. Russell E Moore
>
> At 06:22 PM 11/21/99 -0500, Kevin O'Driscoll wrote:
>
> >Dear Fot,
> >I wouldn't say that I was the ass on this list. In my home we were taught
> >to speak of women with respect, especially dead women, who contributed to
> >society in a significant way during wartime.  In fact my late grandmother
> >worked as a welder in the shipyards during WWII building the liberty
> >ships that saved England's ass, and I'm absolutely sure that she would
> >have been appalled at the disrepect Mr. Richardson showed for the
> >deceased.
> >Sincerely Yours,
> >Kevin R. O'Driscoll, Ph.D.
> >
> >
> >On Sun, 21 Nov 1999, Bill Babcock wrote:
> >
> > > Wow. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin O'Driscoll [mailto:ko3@columbia.edu]
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 1999 10:51 AM
> > > To: Paul Richardson
> > > Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: A reply for MR O'Driscoll
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well then excuse me ... from your sexist list ...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Paul Richardson wrote:
> > >
> > > > Kevin O'Driscoll opines that my WW2 anecdote on the anti G fuel metering
> > > > valve invented by Mrs Tilly Shilling smacks of an 'antiquated
> > attitude.' I
> > > > put it on the FOT list because I thought members would appreciate a
> > unique
> > > > piece of engineering history. It contains unique humour, whilst
> > > > exemplifying the part that a brilliant member of the fair sex played in
> > > > preventing the loss of our pilot's lives. Tilly Shilling also found the
> > > > nickname of her invention by her Rolls colleagues highly amusing -
> > she had
> > > > a keen sense of humour.
> > > >
> > > > You write, "Obviously Mrs Shilling is now posthumously remembered as the
> > > > engineer who won the Battle of Britain and bested the engineers at
> > Rolls."
> > > > - Due to the general tone of your e-mail this could be interpreted as
> > > > disrespectful, sneering sarcasm. You could also have saved yourself
> > > further
> > > > embarrassment by checking your history, because the negative G
> > problem was
> > > > not solved until after the Battle of Britain. Tilly Shilling, besides
> > > being
> > > > a brilliant engineer, was also a 'Lady' in the best interpretation of
> > that
> > > > word. As such, she would never have interpreted any of her work as
> > > > bettering the Rolls engineers, who were her close colleagues.
> > > >
> > > > I find your paragraphs on the vicissitudes and marketing ploys of the
> > > > London motor dealer and the Ford Motor Company on the new DB7 Aston
> > Martin
> > > > have the depth and clarity of a shallow muddy puddle on a foggy day, and
> > > > wonder how you connect a 1999 marketing exercises with a true 60 year 
>old
> > > > engineering story. You say in your last paragraph - to quote you
> > exactly -
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > >
> > > > Paul
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