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Re: 5 speed conversion

To: vinttr4@geneseo.net, fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 5 speed conversion
From: "Bill Sohl" <billsohl@pop.mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:51:10 +0000
Question:  Why wouldn't this 5 speed conversion
also fit a TR-3 or 4?  The TR-6 gearbox bolts right in
to the 3 or 4 and only needs a trans mount redrilled
or repositioned to line everything up.

Just a thought.

Cheers,
Bill Sohl

> > Sorry to post twice on the same subject....but for the visually inclined 
>like
> > me I'va attached a print ad of the 5 speed conversion. This too came from
> > ebay with an opening bid price of $1175.
> >
> > Add reads: "This is a brand new kit to convert a Triumph TR-6(TR-250) to a
> > modern Toyota Supra five speed gearbox. Kit includes new
> > bellhousing, clutch disc, speedo cable, rear mount, shifter, and good used
> > gearbox. Mounts in car without any bod modifications."
> >
> > See attachment for jpg photo of complete unit.
> >
> > Comments? I promise I won't post anymore photos on the subject....but this
> > really caught my racers eye. hmmmmm. (Two more hours to land in LAX ....)
> >
> > Anyone bidding? (I buy cars for these prices....not transmissions).
> >
> > Bill Burroughs, #195 TR4A IRS
> > E Ticket Triumphs
> >
> >   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >  [Image]
> 
> Here's my second post on this subject, too, and also my promise to sit down 
>and
> shut up after this post.
> 
> I've constructed an Excel spreadsheet that lists all TR ratios, all Toyota
> ratios, and the percentage differences between the ratios. Interesting to
> technophiles, maybe, but I can't send it out to the list because Mark's 
>software
> doesn't allow attachments of this size. If you want a copy, email me and I'll
> return it to you.
> 
> The conclusions that I draw from it, all of which may be wrong, of course, 
>are:
> 
> 1. If you currently run an overdrive and STANDARD TR gears, the Toyota 
>STANDARD
> box gives you the same approximate gaps 3-4-5 as with your TR 3-4-od.
> 
> 2. If you currently run OD and TR CLOSE ratios, you CANNOT duplicate the TR od
> and standard ratios, but you can play with the TR OD ratios on the 
>intermediate
> gears and make your own interpretation
> 
> 3. If you run a NON-OD standard box (like I do), and replace with a Toyota 
>CLOSE
> RATIO box and use the same diff ratio as you do now, the Toyota gearbox will 
>give
> you about the same ratio gaps between 3- 4-5 as a TR close ratio box will give
> you between 2-3-4.
> 
> The list price for the kit is $1162 not including gearbox. Let's say that the 
>kit
> sells on eBay for $1000 and that it costs $500 for a Toyota close ratio box
> (think you can get a pull-apart to correctly identify a CR box vs a std one?),
> giving a conversion cost of $1500.
> 
> If I was going to spend $1500 on a gearbox conversion, I would want ratios 
>like
> you get with a CLOSE RATIO TR trans with OD. I don't think you can get that 
>with
> this Toyota conversion.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> uncle jack
> 
> The Attorney General advises that vintage racing may be hazardous to your 
>wealth.

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