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Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol impacts

To: "Joe Curry" <spitlist@cox.net>, "'Bill Babcock'" <Billb@bnj.com>,
Subject: Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol impacts
From: "John Macartney" <standardtriumph@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 00:30:16 +0100
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Not so much animals - but the exhaust sure smells of fish and french =
fries when climbing steep hills. Trouble is, I'm trying to work out how =
I can refine the exhaust aroma to filter out the odours of flaming food =
wrapping (old newspaper) as well :)

John
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Joe Curry=20
  To: 'John Macartney' ; 'Bill Babcock' ; mdporter@dfn.com=20
  Cc: Group44TR7@aol.com ; fot@autox.team.net=20
  Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 12:09 AM
  Subject: RE: [Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol impacts


  John,

  Willie Nelson asked me to tell you that he is proud of you.   Does =
your car (like his tour bus) attract a lot of animals to the smell of =
the exhaust?  J

  =20

  Cheers,

  Joe

  =20


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  From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] =
On Behalf Of John Macartney
  Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 2:50 PM
  To: Bill Babcock; mdporter@dfn.com
  Cc: Group44TR7@aol.com; fot@autox.team.net
  Subject: Re: [Fot] gasoline comparison - ethanol impacts

  =20

  Whatever the merits/demerits of ethanol in gasoline, I've been a =
diesel user in my daily driver for some years. With rocketing fuel =
prices in the UK - a gallon of diesel costs me US$11.00 - I've just gone =
down the route of running my car on bio-diesel. As far as I can make =
out, bio-diesel is a refined and recycled fuel made mostly from cooking =
oil out of UK fish and chip shops and food processors. For a start it =
now costs me only US$3.20 a gallon and the performance difference is =
negligible and the car is more environmentally friendly with lower =
emissions than with the normal diesel. I have to say my first =
consideration was not the environment but my wallet ...

  =20

  Jonmac

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Not so much animals - but the exhaust =
sure smells=20
of fish and french fries when climbing steep hills. Trouble is, I'm =
trying to=20
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  <A title=3Dspitlist@cox.net href=3D"mailto:spitlist@cox.net";>Joe =
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  href=3D"mailto:standardtriumph@btinternet.com";>'John Macartney'</A> ; =
<A=20
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3DGroup44TR7@aol.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:Group44TR7@aol.com";>Group44TR7@aol.com</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dfot@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net";>fot@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 15, =
2008 12:09=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: [Fot] gasoline =
comparison -=20
  ethanol impacts</DIV>
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