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Subject: Re: [Fot] differential Pinion Height
From: "Randall" <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2015 04:15:59 -0700
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Silly me, I just stuck a (tiny) torque wrench on it.
http://www.sears.com/kd-tools-beam-torque-wrench-0-60-in-lbs/p-00999788000P

As Bill said, check the tooth pattern to get the depth right.  I got lucky
there, the new head bearing was the exact same thickness as the old one, so
the original shim pack thickness was still correct.
<http://s258.photobucket.com/user/TR3driver/media/Stag%20diff/DSCF0065.jpg.h
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-- Randall
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of James J Dolan
> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:42 PM
> To: J.C. Hassall
> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph
> Subject: Re: [Fot] differential Pinion Height
> 
> Wow
> Imagine building Triumphs on an assembly line and doing a few hundred rear
> axles a day that way.
> 
> A Guinness or two at lunch and the next thing the whole contraption falls
> over and the lead shot goes everywhere, and the poor bloke spends the
> entire work shift picking up tiny marbles. Quality control problem!!
> 
> Sure explains why the damn cars stopped being made and the British no
> longer have an Empire.
> 
> And to think we race them......
> 
> All joking aside, that is pretty creative.
> 
> Jim
> 
> GT6 #6 Kastner
> GT6 #4 Group 44
> GT6 #5
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Aug 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, J.C. Hassall <jhassall@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Scott,
> 
> This is how I set up my TR4 pinion.  A 1/2" square piece of steel stock
> inserted into a socket.  The steel bar thru the square stock was counter
> balanced to give zero rotation.  With inch increments lightly notched into
> the rod, it was easy to locate the bag of lead shot at precise locations.
> When the rod tipped, the pinion torque was dead on.  BTW, the 2x4 was
> supporting the diff front, not the drive flange.  It only took a few
> trials to tighten the nut to the required torque.
> 
> hth
> 
> jim
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> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com> wrote:
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>       I'm replacing the bearings in the diff (w/Timken USA) and am puzzled
> by the "set pinion height" instructions.  Here's what the workshop manual
> says (paraphrase):
>        - install the pinion head bearing without the normal 0.10" spacer
> between it and the pinion.
>       - install the pinion shaft with bearings, no bearing spacer, shims
> or oil seal, and torque to 12-16 ft-lb
>       - put a dial gauge on the housing with the plunger contacting the
> pinion, then putting downward pressure on the gauge, obtain a maximum
> reading  (appears to be one of those special factory tools in the photo
> though none is cited)
>       -this reading, subtracted from the normal spacer thickness of 0.10",
> determines the thickness of the "selective spacer required".
> 
>       Huh?  first of all, the spacer is 0.10" so how can there be a
> different thickness spacer?  The diagram shows no shims at this location.
> Second and more important, why would the assembly move at all and produce
> any dial indicator readings, given that the pinion bearing assembly is
> torqued to 12-16 lb?
> 
>       These are not the instructions for shimming the spacer between the
> bearings, I understand those - though I am looking for ideas for a
> homemade preload gauge I could easily make up.
> 
>       Are the instructions missing something or am I?
> 
>       thanks!
> 
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