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Re: [Fot] differential Pinion Height

To: Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] differential Pinion Height
From: Bill Babcock <Bill@ponostyle.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:12:10 -0700
Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
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Yes, I give free driving instruction to others on the track. Of course =
if they actually heard what I yell at them there might be some =
confrontations later. I doubt their mothers really did any of the things =
I claim.=20


> On Aug 31, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Kas Kastner <kaskastner@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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> I used to talk out loud and shout and things like that all the time " =
Get your ass out of my way". That would be typical. Sometimes less =
reverent.
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> Never be beaten by equipment.
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> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Bill Babcock <Bill@ponostyle.com =
> Being the poster child for ADD, it=E2=80=99s pretty random. Whatever =
got imprinted while I was driving to the track, usually. I whistle while =
I=E2=80=99m in the pits and it drives some folks crazy. They should hear =
my singing, they=E2=80=99d be grateful for the whistle.=20
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>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Barr, Scott <sbarr@McCarty-Law.com =
>>=20
>> OK, I=E2=80=99ll bite.  Just out of curiosity, what do you sing?
>> =20
>> Scott B.
>> =20
>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 9:18 PM
>> To: James J Dolan <jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com =
>> Cc: 'Friends of Triumph' Triumph <fot@autox.team.net =
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] differential Pinion Height
>> =20
>> That=E2=80=99s pretty slick, but it doesn=E2=80=99t set the pinion =
height. The pinion height above the bearing determines where the teeth =
contact the drive gear. The lash from the shims on the right and left =
side of the spider determine the depth of engagement, but pinon height =
determines the point of engagement=E2=80=94either at the base of the =
driven gear, the middle (where it=E2=80=99s supposed to be) or the top. =
Unfortunately, lacking the factory gear bobs and gimcracks, the only way =
I know to do this is to guess, then install everything, paint the gear =
teeth with blue, and roll them through an engagement cycle. The pattern =
on the teeth tell you where you are. then take everything apart again, =
change stuff, and try again. Last time (two weeks ago) took me five =
tries to get it right, but that=E2=80=99s better than the first time I =
did it. I can now fix two things at once (height and depth), and I=E2=80=99=
ve learned to go in tiny increments (.003=E2=80=9D or less if you have a =
skinnier shim=E2=80=94the smallest from moss are .003=E2=80=9D but my =
stash has some .001=E2=80=9D in it of both the spider shims and the =
pinion shims. I don=E2=80=99t worry too much about the bearing preload =
for either the pinion or the spider. I figure if I don=E2=80=99t have =
shake in the pinion and can just barely get the diff out, then I=E2=80=99m=
 in the ballpark. I=E2=80=99m not trying to build a 50K mile, noiseless =
diff, I just want it to hold together in races and not be louder than my =
singing when I=E2=80=99m racing (yes, I do).=20
>> =20
>> =20
>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 3:42 PM, James J Dolan <jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com =
>> =20
>> Wow
>> Imagine building Triumphs on an assembly line and doing a few hundred =
rear axles a day that way.=20
>> =20
>> A Guinness or two at lunch and the next thing the whole contraption =
falls over and the lead shot goes everywhere, and the poor bloke spends =
the entire work shift picking up tiny marbles. Quality control problem!!
>> =20
>> Sure explains why the damn cars stopped being made and the British no =
longer have an Empire.=20
>> =20
>> And to think we race them......
>> =20
>> All joking aside, that is pretty creative.=20
>> =20
>> Jim
>> =20
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>> GT6 #4 Group 44
>> GT6 #5
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 29, 2015, at 4:13 PM, J.C. Hassall <jhassall@gmail.com =
>>=20
>> Scott,=20
>> =20
>> This is how I set up my TR4 pinion.  A 1/2" square piece of steel =
stock inserted into a socket.  The steel bar thru the square stock was =
counter balanced to give zero rotation.  With inch increments lightly =
notched into the rod, it was easy to locate the bag of lead shot at =
precise locations.  When the rod tipped, the pinion torque was dead on.  =
BTW, the 2x4 was supporting the diff front, not the drive flange.  It =
only took a few trials to tighten the nut to the required torque.
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>> hth
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>> jim
>> =20
>> <pinion preload tool.JPG>
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>> <pinion preload tool.JPG>
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>> On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Scott Janzen <sjanzen@me.com =
>> I'm replacing the bearings in the diff (w/Timken USA) and am puzzled =
by the "set pinion height" instructions.  Here's what the workshop =
manual says (paraphrase):
>>  - install the pinion head bearing without the normal 0.10" spacer =
between it and the pinion.
>> - install the pinion shaft with bearings, no bearing spacer, shims or =
oil seal, and torque to 12-16 ft-lb
>> - put a dial gauge on the housing with the plunger contacting the =
pinion, then putting downward pressure on the gauge, obtain a maximum =
reading  (appears to be one of those special factory tools in the photo =
though none is cited)
>> -this reading, subtracted from the normal spacer thickness of 0.10", =
determines the thickness of the "selective spacer required".
>> =20
>> Huh?  first of all, the spacer is 0.10" so how can there be a =
different thickness spacer?  The diagram shows no shims at this =
location.  Second and more important, why would the assembly move at all =
and produce any dial indicator readings, given that the pinion bearing =
assembly is torqued to 12-16 lb? =20
>> =20
>> These are not the instructions for shimming the spacer between the =
bearings, I understand those - though I am looking for ideas for a =
homemade preload gauge I could easily make up.
>> =20
>> Are the instructions missing something or am I?
>> =20
>> thanks!
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Yes, I give free driving instruction to others on the track. =
Of course if they actually heard what I yell at them there might be some =
confrontations later. I doubt their mothers really did any of the things =
I claim.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Aug 31, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Kas Kastner &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">I used to talk out loud and shout and things like that all =
the time " Get your ass out of my way". That would be typical. Sometimes =
less reverent.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><p =
class=3D""><strong class=3D""><font color=3D"#000099" class=3D"">Never =
be beaten by equipment.</font></strong></p></div></div>
<br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 11:35 =
AM, Bill Babcock <span dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:Bill@ponostyle.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">Bill@ponostyle.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br =
class=3D""><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div =
style=3D"-ms-word-wrap: break-word;" class=3D"">Being the poster child =
for ADD, it=E2=80=99s pretty random. Whatever got imprinted while I was =
driving to the track, usually. I whistle while I=E2=80=99m in the pits =
and it drives some folks crazy. They should hear my singing, they=E2=80=99=
d be grateful for the whistle.&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Aug =
31, 2015, at 9:46 AM, Barr, Scott &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sbarr@McCarty-Law.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">sbarr@McCarty-Law.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font:18px/normal =
Helvetica;text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-s=
pacing:0px;white-space:normal" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t" class=3D"">OK, I=E2=80=99ll bite.&nbsp; Just out of curiosity, what =
do you sing?<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t" class=3D"">Scott B.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11p=
t" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style:solid none none;padding:3pt 0in =
0in;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);border-top-width:1pt" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:11pt" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>Fot [<a =
style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></b>Bill Babcock<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>Saturday, August 29, =
2015 9:18 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>James J Dolan &lt;<a =
style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" =
href=3D"mailto:jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>'Friends of Triumph' =
Triumph &lt;<a style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span class=3D"">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] =
differential Pinion Height<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div><div =
style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">That=E2=80=99s pretty =
slick, but it doesn=E2=80=99t set the pinion height. The pinion height =
above the bearing determines where the teeth contact the drive gear. The =
lash from the shims on the right and left side of the spider determine =
the depth of engagement, but pinon height determines the point of =
engagement=E2=80=94either at the base of the driven gear, the middle =
(where it=E2=80=99s supposed to be) or the top. Unfortunately, lacking =
the factory gear bobs and gimcracks, the only way I know to do this is =
to guess, then install everything, paint the gear teeth with blue, and =
roll them through an engagement cycle. The pattern on the teeth tell you =
where you are. then take everything apart again, change stuff, and try =
again. Last time (two weeks ago) took me five tries to get it right, but =
that=E2=80=99s better than the first time I did it. I can now fix two =
things at once (height and depth), and I=E2=80=99ve learned to go in =
tiny increments (.003=E2=80=9D or less if you have a skinnier shim=E2=80=94=
the smallest from moss are .003=E2=80=9D but my stash has some .001=E2=80=9D=
 in it of both the spider shims and the pinion shims. I don=E2=80=99t =
worry too much about the bearing preload for either the pinion or the =
spider. I figure if I don=E2=80=99t have shake in the pinion and can =
just barely get the diff out, then I=E2=80=99m in the ballpark. I=E2=80=99=
m not trying to build a 50K mile, noiseless diff, I just want it to hold =
together in races and not be louder than my singing when I=E2=80=99m =
racing (yes, I do).&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div><div =
class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt" =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">On Aug 29, 2015, at 3:42 PM, James J Dolan &lt;<a =
style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" =
href=3D"mailto:jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">jdolan@voyagerhldgs.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">Wow<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">Imagine building Triumphs =
on an assembly line and doing a few hundred rear axles a day that =
way.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">A Guinness or two at lunch and the next thing the whole =
contraption falls over and the lead shot goes everywhere, and the poor =
bloke spends the entire work shift picking up tiny marbles. Quality =
control problem!!<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">Sure explains why the damn cars stopped being made and the =
British no longer have an Empire.&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">And to think we race =
them......<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">All joking aside, that is pretty creative.&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">Jim<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">GT6 #6 Kastner<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
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class=3D"">GT6 #4 Group 44<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
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class=3D"">GT6 #5<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my iPhone<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt"><br class=3D"">On Aug 29, 2015, at =
4:13 PM, J.C. Hassall &lt;<a =
style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" =
href=3D"mailto:jhassall@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">jhassall@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">Scott,<span =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">This is how I set up my TR4 pinion.&nbsp; A 1/2" square piece =
of steel stock inserted into a socket.&nbsp; The steel bar thru the =
square stock was counter balanced to give zero rotation.&nbsp; With inch =
increments lightly notched into the rod, it was easy to locate the bag =
of lead shot at precise locations.&nbsp; When the rod tipped, the pinion =
torque was dead on.&nbsp; BTW, the 2x4 was supporting the diff front, =
not the drive flange.&nbsp; It only took a few trials to tighten the nut =
to the required torque.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">hth<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">jim<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in =
0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">&lt;pinion preload =
tool.JPG&gt;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
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Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
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Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
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Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">&lt;pinion preload tool.JPG&gt;<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at =
2:54 PM, Scott Janzen &lt;<a =
style=3D"color:purple;text-decoration:underline" =
href=3D"mailto:sjanzen@me.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">sjanzen@me.com</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div><blockquote style=3D"border-style:none none none =
solid;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6pt;margin-right:0in;margin-left:4.8pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);=
border-left-width:1pt" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in=
 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">I'm replacing the bearings in the diff (w/Timken USA) and am =
puzzled by the "set pinion height" instructions.&nbsp; Here's what the =
workshop manual says (paraphrase):<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;- install the pinion head bearing without the normal =
0.10" spacer between it and the pinion.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">- install the pinion shaft with bearings, no bearing spacer, =
shims or oil seal, and torque to 12-16 ft-lb<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">- put a dial gauge on the housing with the plunger contacting =
the pinion, then putting downward pressure on the gauge, obtain a =
maximum reading &nbsp;(appears to be one of those special factory tools =
in the photo though none is cited)<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">-this reading, subtracted from the normal spacer thickness of =
0.10", determines the thickness of the "selective spacer required".<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D"">Huh? &nbsp;first of all, the spacer is 0.10" so how can there =
be a different thickness spacer?&nbsp; The diagram shows no shims at =
this location.&nbsp; Second and more important, why would the assembly =
move at all and produce any dial indicator readings, given that the =
pinion bearing assembly is torqued to 12-16 lb? &nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u=
 class=3D""></u></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in =
0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" =
class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D"">These are not the =
instructions for shimming the spacer between the bearings, I understand =
those - though I am looking for ideas for a homemade preload gauge I =
could easily make up.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif;font-size:12pt" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
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class=3D"">Are the instructions missing something or am I?<u =
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