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Re: [Fot] cams and roaches and such

To: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] cams and roaches and such
From: Bill Babcock <Bill@ponostyle.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2015 13:08:38 -0800
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Agreed. The fastest path to the end of vintage racing is to fail to =
understand that our vintage is not everyone=E2=80=99s vintage. The magic =
age for amateur race car drivers is 40=E2=80=94old enough to have money =
to do it, young enough to want to. People who are 40 today were born in =
1975 and probably didn=E2=80=99t care anything about cars until 1985. =
Teenagers who lusted after a TR3 are 70 and older=E2=80=94less than nine =
percent of the population and getting smaller fast.=20

I don=E2=80=99t care nearly as much about what cars I run on the track =
with as I do about having races to run. The grids in American vintage =
racing have changed forever already=E2=80=94not because more modern cars =
are permitted, but because a lot of the cars that came to even local =
races are too valuable to risk, or too expensive to maintain, or just =
tired of racing against =E2=80=9Cvintage=E2=80=9D production cars that =
turn non-vintage lap times.=20


> On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Terry Stetler <tlizzard@msn.com> wrote:
>=20
> As someone with CRX on track experience, and also a guy that loves his =
street TR3 and keeps one very fast race TR3 going, I don't think that =
dissing the modern sports cars is really good for us overall.
> =20
> As has been mentioned previously, interest in "our" cars is fading, as =
is interest in automobile enthusiasm in general.  Now is not the time =
for "interservice rivalry", as it were.  We need to embrace all of the =
many forms
> that are the sportscar, and indeed motorcar enthusiasm in general.  We =
need to keep our love alive, and to bring up another couple generations =
of enthusiasts who will come to cherish "our" cars, and keep them alive =
well into the future.
> =20
> Oh, the spec Miata lap record at Mid Ohio is now down to a hair over =
1:40.  Just sayin', and that was not done by bumping each other, but by =
proper application of good driving skills.
> =20
> =20
> Terry Stetler
> _______________________________________________
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Agreed. The fastest path to the end of vintage racing is to =
fail to understand that our vintage is not everyone=E2=80=99s vintage. =
The magic age for amateur race car drivers is 40=E2=80=94old enough to =
have money to do it, young enough to want to. People who are 40 today =
were born in 1975 and probably didn=E2=80=99t care anything about cars =
until 1985. Teenagers who lusted after a TR3 are 70 and older=E2=80=94less=
 than nine percent of the population and getting smaller fast.&nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">I don=E2=80=99t care nearly as =
much about what cars I run on the track with as I do about having races =
to run. The grids in American vintage racing have changed forever =
already=E2=80=94not because more modern cars are permitted, but because =
a lot of the cars that came to even local races are too valuable to =
risk, or too expensive to maintain, or just tired of racing against =
=E2=80=9Cvintage=E2=80=9D production cars that turn non-vintage lap =
times.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Nov 1, 2015, at 10:45 AM, Terry Stetler =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tlizzard@msn.com"; =
class=3D"">tlizzard@msn.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family: Verdana; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; =
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none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">As someone =
with CRX on track experience, and also a guy that loves his street TR3 =
and keeps one very fast race TR3 going, I don't think that dissing the =
modern sports cars is really good for us overall.</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">As has been mentioned previously, =
interest in "our" cars is fading, as is interest in automobile =
enthusiasm in general.&nbsp; Now is not the time for "interservice =
rivalry", as it were.&nbsp; We need to embrace all of the many =
forms</div><div class=3D"">that are the&nbsp;sportscar, and indeed =
motorcar enthusiasm in general.&nbsp; We need to keep our love alive, =
and to bring up another couple generations of enthusiasts who will come =
to cherish "our" cars, and keep them alive well into the =
future.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Oh, the spec =
Miata lap record at Mid Ohio is now down to a hair over 1:40.&nbsp; Just =
sayin', and that was not done by bumping each other, but by proper =
application of good driving skills.</div><div class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</div><div class=3D"">Terry Stetler</div></div><span =
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!important;" =
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