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Re: [Fot] What makes a Triumph a Triumph

To: Triumph 'Friends of Triumph <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] What makes a Triumph a Triumph
From: Duncan Charlton <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2015 20:02:56 -0600
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Maybe being called a Triumph derivative requires using the entire =
running gear from a Triumph, as provided by Triumph.  Or perhaps it had =
to do with using Triumph=E2=80=99s new car distribution network? =20

Morgans used the Standard Vanguard and TR engines, but not frames, axles =
or gearboxes, and only on the 1951-1968 Plus 4 models. =20

(Morgan has never made their own engines, and they have had a more or =
less continuous relationship with Ford from 1934 to present.  Ford (and =
perhaps Rover as well) probably provided more engines to Morgan than =
Triumph ever did.)

Duncan

> On Dec 9, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Gertjan van de Klashorst =
<klokhuis67@t-online.de> wrote:
>=20
> Good question. Saab used engines produced by Triumph, Morgan used =
Triumph engines as did some Peerless and Warwick and Doretti, also =
Italia. Now the last four are seen at the TR International in Malvern =
and seen as Triumph derivatives. I have never heard anybody calling Saab =
and Morgan Triumph derivatives.=20
> =20
> There must be more that have used Triumph parts for their cars. =
Formula One Lotus was using a Triumph suspension part, they called the =
triumph-link. A South African single seater, called Protea,  is using =
Triumph engine and gear box. The Devin could be equipped with TR engine, =
but with many others as well.
> So anybody can define where it starts and ends?
> =20
> Gert
> =20
> Van: Bob Bownes -Seiri [mailto:bownes@seiri.com =
> Verzonden: 09 December 2015 16:04
> Aan: John Styduhar
> CC: John Hasty; J Roenigk; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph; klokhuis67
> Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] TR3B register of remaining TR3Bs
> =20
> When it is a TVR? ;)
>=20
> On Nov 30, 2015, at 13:44, John Styduhar <johnstydo@gmail.com =
>=20
>> That's interesting information John. I wonder how many other =
TR-sourced cars were built.  When is a Triumph a Triumph??
>> =20
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:28 PM, John Hasty <jhasty@mhc-law.com =
>> John=E2=80=A6..I may be wrong, but I think Triumph only sold =
mechanicals to Vignale who built and sold the Italia=E2=80=A6.
>> =20
>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 1:22 PM
>> To: John Styduhar; klokhuis67; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
>>=20
>> Cc: J Roenigk
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3B register of remaining TR3Bs
>> =20
>> He parker it next to my car at the car show during the K cup. Can=E2=80=
=99t remember his name but he is good friends with Ronnie Babbitt. I=E2=80=
=99m sure he told me he actually has two and this was not the better =
one.=20
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>> From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:12 AM
>> To: klokhuis67; Triumph 'Friends of Triumph
>> Cc: J Roenigk
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3B register of remaining TR3Bs
>> =20
>> I saw a beautiful red Italia at the Kastner Cup this year at Summit =
Point. Can't remember who the owner was. I think it is the most =
beautiful car that Triumph made.=20
>> =20
>> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:56 AM, klokhuis67 <klokhuis67@t-online.de =
>> Certainly interested in the info. =46rom what I know is that the last =
30 TRFs, 501-530 were used for Italia's.
>> =20
>> I also have a link to the Italia Registrar of the UK TR Register.
>> =20
>> Thanks
>> =20
>> =20
>> Best regards,
>>=20
>> Gertjan van de Klashorst
>>=20
>> Sent from my Samsung tablet
>>=20
>> Kurt=E2=80=A6.not aware that happened=E2=80=A6.let=E2=80=99s see what =
Gert says.
>> =20
>> Thx
>> =20
>> Rich
>> =20
>> From: Kurt Oblinger [mailto:koblinger@verizon.net =
>> Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2015 9:51 PM
>> To: John Styduhar; gertjan van de klashorst; J Roenigk
>> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR3B register of remaining TR3Bs
>> =20
>> I have an Italia 2000 built on a TR3B (TSF) chassis. Would you like =
that info?
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Kurt O.
>>=20
>> On 11/29/2015 5:37 PM, John Styduhar wrote:
>>> Amici,
>>> If any owner of a TR3B is interested in including their car in a =
register of remaining TR3Bs and receive a numbered certificate of =
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Klashorst, registrar: =20
>>> =20
>>> Titled Date-=20
>>> Commission Number-
>>> Body Serial Number-
>>> Engine Number-
>>> Rear Axle Serial Number-
>>> Gearbox Serial Number-
>>> Current owner's name, address, and contact information-
>>> Owned since date-
>>> Car history if known-
>>> Current photo-
>>> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Maybe being called a Triumph derivative requires using the =
entire running gear from a Triumph, as provided by Triumph. &nbsp;Or =
perhaps it had to do with using Triumph=E2=80=99s new car distribution =
network? &nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Morgans used the Standard Vanguard and TR engines, but not =
frames, axles or gearboxes, and only on the 1951-1968 Plus 4 models. =
&nbsp;<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">(Morgan has =
never made their own engines, and they have had a more or less =
continuous relationship with Ford from 1934 to present. &nbsp;Ford (and =
perhaps Rover as well) probably provided more engines to Morgan than =
Triumph ever did.)<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Duncan</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Dec 9, 2015, at 10:23 AM, Gertjan van de Klashorst &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:klokhuis67@t-online.de"; =
class=3D"">klokhuis67@t-online.de</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: =
start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Good question. Saab used engines produced by Triumph, Morgan =
used Triumph engines as did some Peerless and Warwick and Doretti, also =
Italia. Now the last four are seen at the TR International in Malvern =
and seen as Triumph derivatives. I have never heard anybody calling Saab =
and Morgan Triumph derivatives.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">There must be =
more that have used Triumph parts for their cars. Formula One Lotus was =
using a Triumph suspension part, they called the triumph-link. A South =
African single seater, called Protea, &nbsp;is using Triumph engine and =
gear box. The Devin could be equipped with TR engine, but with many =
others as well.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">So =
anybody can define where it starts and ends?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Gert<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-GB" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, =
223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Van:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Bob Bownes =
-Seiri [<a href=3D"mailto:bownes@seiri.com"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">mailto:bownes@seiri.com</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Verzonden:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>09 December 2015 16:04<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Aan:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>John Styduhar<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">CC:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>John Hasty; J Roenigk; =
Triumph 'Friends of Triumph; klokhuis67<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Onderwerp:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR3B register of =
remaining TR3Bs<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">When it is a TVR? =
;)<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
 style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New =
Roman', serif;"><br class=3D"">On Nov 30, 2015, at 13:44, John Styduhar =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:johnstydo@gmail.com"; style=3D"color: purple; =
text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">johnstydo@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">That's=
 interesting information John. I wonder how many other TR-sourced cars =
were built.&nbsp; When is a Triumph a Triumph??<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D"">On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 1:28 PM, John =
Hasty &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jhasty@mhc-law.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">jhasty@mhc-law.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">John=E2=80=A6..I may be wrong, but I think Triumph only sold =
mechanicals to Vignale who built and sold the Italia=E2=80=A6.</span><span=
 lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: =
solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: =
1pt; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>Pierce, =
Russell<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, November 30, 2015 =
1:22 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>John Styduhar; klokhuis67; =
Triumph 'Friends of Triumph</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>J Roenigk<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR3B register of =
remaining TR3Bs<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div=
 class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">He =
parker it next to my car at the car show during the K cup. Can=E2=80=99t =
remember his name but he is good friends with Ronnie Babbitt. I=E2=80=99m =
sure he told me he actually has two and this was not the better =
one.<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:image001.jpg@01D132A6.589F4D50">&lt;image001.jpg&gt;</span></spa=
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New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Russell A. Pierce</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
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sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>John =
Styduhar<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Monday, November 30, 2015 =
11:12 AM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>klokhuis67; Triumph =
'Friends of Triumph<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Cc:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>J Roenigk<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR3B register of =
remaining TR3Bs</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I saw a beautiful red Italia at the Kastner =
Cup this year at Summit Point. Can't remember who the owner was. I think =
it is the most beautiful car that Triumph made.&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 4:56 =
AM, klokhuis67 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:klokhuis67@t-online.de"; =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">klokhuis67@t-online.de</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Certainly =
interested in the info. =46rom what I know is that the last 30 TRFs, =
501-530 were used for Italia's.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I also have a link to =
the Italia Registrar of the UK TR Register.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Thanks<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Best =
regards,<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Gertjan van de Klashorst<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent from my Samsung tablet<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><br class=3D"">Rich Roenigk =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rroenigk@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=3D"">rroenigk@aol.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Kurt=E2=80=A6.not aware that happened=E2=80=A6.let=E2=80=99s =
see what Gert says.</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Thx</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Rich</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: =
3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Kurt =
Oblinger [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:koblinger@verizon.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">koblinger@verizon.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sunday, November 29, 2015 =
9:51 PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>John Styduhar; gertjan van =
de klashorst; J Roenigk<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR3B register of =
remaining TR3Bs</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">I have an Italia 2000 built =
on a TR3B (TSF) chassis. Would you like that info?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">Thanks,<br class=3D"">Kurt O.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">On =
11/29/2015 5:37 PM, John Styduhar wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: =
5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Amici,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">If any owner of a TR3B is interested in including their car =
in a register of remaining TR3Bs and receive a numbered certificate of =
confirmation, please forward the following information to Gert J. van de =
Klashorst, registrar: &nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Titled Date-&nbsp;<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div=
 class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Commission Number-<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div=
 class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Body Serial Number-<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Engine Number-<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Rear Axle Serial =
Number-<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Gearbox =
Serial Number-<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
class=3D"">Current owner's name, address, and contact information-<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Owned since date-<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Car history if =
known-<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Current =
photo-<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" class=3D"">Gert's email address =
is &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(119, =
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