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Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods

To: Bud R <levilevi@comcast.net> s=q20140121; t=1450070916; bh=zsNbIpTjeczVm1baDXzEaFlC4OP2zyvAXXScj65mcwE=; h=Received:Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:Date: Message-Id:To; b=GAOpP+j8eygstcE21SjyA8R0gJ1x2+Ik9BjXEU3mCJWwGMJonA8/HcSiO70hsqRK9 iGYPrSEGBd9eUGtaZq+S9f99TuW+mu8JY/1mPBBBUJM3SMvrmL2k7MALLZrjzGJL3q 5SSpoPLFOkZmWoxMFxYONMnSA/d8uSQ10E+rcSZrO5zMQGTwzbw3Bez6LJWNZGJL34 3VJiuPodDLFwTv+mYquRfbDQ7vo1yuduPUD6qLI425TGYG2PZn3o64T8l4Rhh63yZu VdGHpGZplCsrc3u/lSuiWy6K/WD+KqoKIAkcmLciF3Wy/3PhJ+jXORKDor9DjR0d7Q Sk8xQYWzkUj1g==
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods
From: Dave Hogye <dlhogye@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2015 21:28:34 -0800
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Oil starvation.  I have been told that this is the way TR3/4 engines can go t=
oo.
The bearing spins after oil loss.
An expert/experienced builder I know (Greg S.) makes crank mods to get extra=
 oil from the center main journal to feed more oil to 2 and 3 on the TR moto=
rs.
You won't see the pressure drop on a gauge.
I'm not sure what Spit racers are doing for this, but I bet someone will pip=
e in on this.
It might help to start your own thread on this, directed to Spit racers.

Dave H.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 13, 2015, at 8:21 PM, Bud R <levilevi@comcast.net> wrote:
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> The number 2 and 3 rod caps both look like they got real hot. In the pics y=
ou can see #1 rod cap is the correct color, #2 has been hot, #3 is gone, and=
 #4 is the right color. Now what could cause two rods to get hotter than the=
 others? Two spun bearings? Even the crank is blue at the #3 journal.
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> Thanks
> Bud
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> Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)
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> 71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
> 71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
> 69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
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> 77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)
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>> On Dec 13, 2015, at 7:35 PM, davehogye <dlhogye@comcast.net> wrote:
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>> Hi Bud,
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>> Sorry about this misfortune.
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>> To me, one photo reveals a bunch.
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>> I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt.  I'm pretty sure that would suggest t=
hat parts were just about red hot before they went bang, rattle rattle.
>>=20
>> If the bolt broke before hand, I don't think it would not have the bluing=
 from heat.
>>=20
>> Good luck with the rebuild.
>>=20
>> Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.
>>=20
>> Dave H.
> <IMG_5458.jpeg><IMG_5460.jpeg><IMG_5462.jpeg>

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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
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nature">The bearing spins after oil loss.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature=
">An expert/experienced builder I know (Greg S.) makes crank mods to get ext=
ra oil from the center main journal to feed more oil to 2 and 3 on the TR mo=
tors.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">You won't see the pressure drop on=
 a gauge.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I'm not sure what Spit racers a=
re doing for this, but I bet someone will pipe in on this.</div><div id=3D"A=
ppleMailSignature">It might help to start your own thread on this, directed t=
o Spit racers.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"Appl=
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015, at 8:21 PM, Bud R &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:levilevi@comcast.net";>levilevi@=
comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><meta=
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br></div>The number 2 and 3 rod caps both look like they got real hot. In th=
e pics you can see #1 rod cap is the correct color, #2 has been hot, #3 is g=
one, and #4 is the right color. Now what could cause two rods to get hotter t=
han the others? Two spun bearings? Even the crank is blue at the #3 journal.=
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></div></span></div></span></div></span></div><div><div>On Dec 13, 2015, at 7=
:35 PM, davehogye &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dlhogye@comcast.net";>dlhogye@comcast=
.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote=
 type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt;"><div aria=
-label=3D"Compose body">Hi Bud,</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></=
div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Sorry about this misfortune.</div><div a=
ria-label=3D"Compose body"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;"><br></span></div=
><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;">To me, on=
e photo reveals a bunch.</span></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></=
div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">I see a lot of heat on the ARP bolt. &n=
bsp;I'm pretty sure that would suggest that parts were just about red hot be=
fore they went bang, rattle rattle.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><b=
r></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">If the bolt broke before hand, I do=
n't think it would not have the bluing from heat.</div><div aria-label=3D"Co=
mpose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Good luck with the re=
build.</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Co=
mpose body">Get it fixed and bring it west for the Kastner Cup.</div><div ar=
ia-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body">Dave H.=
</div><div aria-label=3D"Compose body"><br></div><div aria-label=3D"Compose b=
ody"><br></div></div></blockquote></div>&lt;IMG_5458.jpeg&gt;&lt;IMG_5460.jp=
eg&gt;&lt;IMG_5462.jpeg&gt;</div></div></blockquote></body></html>=

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