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Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature

To: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
From: Bill Babcock <ponobill@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2016 14:41:18 -0700
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
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Well, you=E2=80=99ll need to get comfortable with a higher no-load =
temperature, because the radiator outlet temperature will be high.=20

Two factors to consider: Heat, which is the amount of energy =
transferred, and temperature, which relates to heat transfer only in =
terms of the differential temperature. Slow speed means less mass flow =
and therefore less heat transfer but a higher differential temperature =
across the radiator, high speed means more heat transfer but less =
differential temperature across the radiator.=20

> On Jul 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi Mordy,
> =20
> there are two theories about cooling and water flow.
> =20
> 1.      Slow speed of the water in the radiator to give the water time =
to cool. That means slowing down
> 2.      The other theory sais maximizing the flow, no restriction, =
high coolant speed.
> =20
> In a way I prefer the 2nd way. And I=E2=80=99ll test this version in =
the coming weeks. I=E2=80=99ll remove the restrictors and see what =
happens.
> =20
> Cheers
> Chris
> =C2=A0 <>
> Von: Mordy Dunst [mailto:gasket.works@gte.net =
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 10. Juli 2016 22:45
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
> =20
> Chris your the engineer....
>=20
> Heat produced vs heat removed.  There will be a steady state at some =
point.  You would like it lower.   Don"t underestimate the headgasket =
component of channeling coolant flow.  In the TR4 motor i made the =
coolant holes different than original to allow the mass flow of water to =
occur from the rear of the motor forward.   I also put a pressure gauge =
on my coolant.  If the pressure is too low it will not cool as =
efficiently either.  I don"t know what the coolant  dwell time with in =
the head needs to be to in order to adsorb the heat generated.  Nor the =
dwell time in the radiator.  There certainly calcs for all this stuff. =20=

> =20
> MDunst
> Headgasket.com <http://headgasket.com/>
> 626.628.3777 F
> Triple R Munitions, Inc
> 626.201.9471 T
> FFL 6,7 SOT 2
>=20
>=20
> =20
> =20
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
> To: 'Marcel Van Mulders' <van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be =
> Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 8:21 pm
> Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
>=20
> I have a 160F thermostat installed.
> Next test will be without any restrictions, maximum flow and see how =
it goes with that.
> =20
> Chris
> =20
> Von: Marcel Van Mulders [mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be =
> Gesendet: Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 13:01
> An: 'MadMarx' <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
> Betreff: RE: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
> =20
> My diesel BMW runs always at 100=C2=B0C/212=C2=B0F when hot. What =
coolant thermostat is in it? If the T=C2=B0 is steady at 212=C2=B0F, =
perhaps it  is intentionally done so with a 212=C2=B0 thermostat.
> Marcel
> =20
> Van: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Verzonden: donderdag 7 juli 2016 19:21
> Aan: 'FOT List'
> Onderwerp: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature
> Hi guys,
> =20
> My TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.
> Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be enough. I've =
experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. Changing =
pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator in and =
outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making the pump =
more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than crank, =
currently 1:1 speed. Any ideas? 10 Liters are circulating.
> =20
> Cheers
> Chris
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Well, you=E2=80=99ll need to get comfortable =
with a higher no-load temperature, because the radiator outlet =
temperature will be high.&nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Two factors to consider: Heat, which is =
the amount of energy transferred, and temperature, which relates to heat =
transfer only in terms of the differential temperature. Slow speed means =
less mass flow and therefore less heat transfer but a higher =
differential temperature across the radiator, high speed means more heat =
transfer but less differential temperature across the =
radiator.&nbsp;</div><br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jul 10, 2016, at 2:54 PM, MadMarx &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: =
0px;"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hi=
 Mordy,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">there are two =
theories about cooling and water flow.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span class=3D"">1.<span style=3D"font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; =
line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Slow speed of the water in the radiator to give =
the water time to cool. That means slowing down<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt =
36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; =
text-indent: -18pt;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"">2.<span style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman';" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></span></span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">The other theory sais maximizing the flow, no =
restriction, high coolant speed.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">In a way I prefer the 2<sup =
class=3D"">nd</sup><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>way.=
 And I=E2=80=99ll test this version in the coming weeks. I=E2=80=99ll =
remove the restrictors and see what happens.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Cheers<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">Chris<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><a name=3D"_MailEndCompose" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></div><span class=3D""></span><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Von:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Mordy =
Dunst [<a href=3D"mailto:gasket.works@gte.net"; =
class=3D"">mailto:gasket.works@gte.net</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Sonntag, 10. Juli 2016 =
22:45<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">An:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be"; =
class=3D"">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</a><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Betreff:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Chris your the =
engineer....<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Heat produced vs heat =
removed.&nbsp; There will be a steady state at some point.&nbsp; You =
would like it lower. &nbsp; Don"t underestimate the headgasket component =
of channeling coolant flow.&nbsp; In the TR4 motor i made the coolant =
holes different than original to allow the mass flow of water to occur =
from the rear of the motor forward.&nbsp;&nbsp; I also put a pressure =
gauge on my coolant.&nbsp; If the pressure is too low it will not cool =
as efficiently either.&nbsp; I don"t know what the coolant&nbsp; dwell =
time with in the head needs to be to in order to adsorb the heat =
generated.&nbsp; Nor the dwell time in the radiator.&nbsp; There =
certainly calcs for all this stuff.&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">MDunst<br class=3D""><a =
href=3D"http://headgasket.com/"; class=3D"">Headgasket.com</a><br =
class=3D"">626.628.3777 F<br class=3D"">Triple R Munitions, Inc<br =
class=3D"">626.201.9471 T<br class=3D"">FFL 6,7 SOT 2<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: MadMarx =
&lt;</span><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: windowtext;" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">To: 'Marcel Van Mulders' &lt;</span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be"; class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: windowtext;" =
class=3D"">van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</span></a></span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">&gt;; 'MadMarx' &lt;</span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"color: windowtext;" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">Cc: fot &lt;</span><span style=3D"font-size:=
 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D""><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"color: windowtext;" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</span></a></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">&gt;<br class=3D"">Sent: Sat, Jul 9, 2016 8:21 pm<br =
class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Fot] TR8 Water temperature<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3D"AOLMsgPart_1.2_dc1d0451-f169-48f2-a7f8-1097a48363d1" class=3D""><div=
 class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">I have a 160F thermostat installed.</span><span =
style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Next test will be without any restrictions, maximum flow and =
see how it goes with that.</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Chris</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"border-style: solid none none; =
border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: =
3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Von:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Marcel Van Mulders [<a =
href=3D"mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be?"; class=3D""><u =
class=3D""><span style=3D"color: blue;" =
class=3D"">mailto:van.mulders.marcel@telenet.be</span></u></a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Gesendet:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Samstag, 9. Juli 2016 =
13:01<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">An:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'MadMarx' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; class=3D""><u class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color: blue;" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</span></u></a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D""><u class=3D""><span =
style=3D"color: blue;" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</span></u></a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Betreff:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>RE: [Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: blue;" class=3D"">My diesel BMW runs always at =
100=C2=B0C/212=C2=B0F when hot. What coolant thermostat is in it? If the =
T=C2=B0 is steady at 212=C2=B0F, perhaps it&nbsp; is intentionally done =
so with a 212=C2=B0 thermostat.</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, =
sans-serif; color: blue;" class=3D"">Marcel</span><span style=3D"" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"" class=3D"">&nbsp;<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D"MsoNormal" =
align=3D"center" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center;"><span =
lang=3D"NL" style=3D"" class=3D""><hr size=3D"5" width=3D"100%" =
align=3D"center" class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin-bottom: =
12pt;" class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: =
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"NL" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Van:</span></b><span lang=3D"NL" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Fot [<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" class=3D""><u=
 class=3D""><span style=3D"color: blue;" =
class=3D"">mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net</span></u></a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><b class=3D"">Namens<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></b>MadMarx<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Verzonden:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>donderdag 7 juli 2016 =
19:21<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Aan:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>'FOT List'<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Onderwerp:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>[Fot] TR8 Water =
temperature</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Hi guys,</span><span style=3D"" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">My =
TR8 is running way too hot about 212F at full speed and at idle the =
temps are getting that high also. I have no idea to get them down.<br =
class=3D"">Radiator core is 68x48cm x 5 cm. I suppose that should be =
enough. I've experiment with different restrictor plates with no change. =
Changing pump speed didn't help either. The difference between radiator =
in and outlet is 10=C2=B0C (50F). Not enough I would say. Maybe making =
the pump more slower? It was running on a ratio of 0.8 slower than =
crank, currently 1:1 speed.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Any ideas? 10 Liters are =
circulating.</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Cheers</span><span style=3D"" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Chris</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
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