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Subject: [Fot] Cams
From: dlhogye at comcast.net (Dave)
Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2018 19:41:01 -0700
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Yes Glen, thanks.
Keep your tips, advice and suggestions coming.
Thumbs up,
DH

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> On Jul 17, 2018, at 10:06 AM, timmmurphh--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for your input on that, Glen.   Very helpful and useful advice.
>  
> Tim
>  
> From: fubog1 <fubog1 at aol.com> 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 12:05 PM
> To: timmmurphh at gmail.com; rbtr3a at cox.net
> Cc: fot at Autox.Team.Net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Cams
>  
> Yes, lacking access to a Cam Doc, you can use a set of V or bearing blocks, a 
> degree wheel, dial indicator, and a bit of time, checked at 5 cam degrees, 
> works fine.
> I'm still old school though, I plot them out on graph paper!
> That will give you the lobe profile but most folks don't have the full specs 
> on the cam, usually just advertised lift and duration.
> Since the tip of the lobe usually starts to go away first, a simple lift 
> measurement will reveal the worst, best done with a dial indicator cuz some 
> (cheap) cams are ground on different base circles.
> Generally, ramp wear is unusual if the tip is still OK, although there can be 
> exceptions.
>  
> Glen.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: timmmurphh <timmmurphh at gmail.com>
> To: 'fubog1' <fubog1 at aol.com>; rbtr3a <rbtr3a at cox.net>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 17, 2018 12:38 pm
> Subject: RE: [Fot] Cams
> 
> By degreeing the cam using increments of 10 crankshaft degrees (5 camshaft 
> degrees) and then plotting the results in Excel, it is possible to get a very 
> accurate picture of the profile of the cam.
>  
> I?ve attached a spreadsheet showing an intake and exhaust lobe comparison two 
> years apart of our Kastner G3 cam for reference.
>  
> Tim Murphy
> #317 TR4
>  
> From: Fot <fot-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of fubog1 via Fot
> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2018 6:31 AM
> To: rbtr3a at cox.net; fot at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Cams
>  
> Generally any obvious wear or pitting would make it unserviceable, but the 
> wear isn't always so obvious.
> You can measure the lift and compare to spec, that will show any worn lobes, 
> but the best way is to find someone who has a "cam doctor". It's a machine 
> that sets it up and measures the complete profile.
> Usually if there is anything apparent that suggests that there may be 
> problems, there are...
>  
> Glen
>  
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rbtr3a--- via Fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> To: fot <fot at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Jul 15, 2018 6:47 pm
> Subject: [Fot] Cams
> 
> How do I determine if a cam is good or bad. If there are any marks on it does 
> that make it bad. I do know that two of the lifters has pitting on the 
> surface. 
> 
> Ronnie
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