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Re: [Healeys] 6-cylinder Rear Crankshaft Oil Seal Conversion Kit

To: David Nock <healeydoc@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 6-cylinder Rear Crankshaft Oil Seal Conversion Kit
From: Al Fuller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:05:16 -0400
Cc: Austin Healey list <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Bob - I put on a seal and still have leaks.

David - thanks for the insight. Something to look for.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 6:22 PM David Nock via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> These seals on the 6 cylinder cars are acutally a secondary rear main
> seal. The original scroll seal is still there. Usually if there is a leak
> after installing the aftermarket rubber seal it is not the main seal. It is
> usually something else.
>
> To leak 2.5 quarts of oil  in 100 miles is major. I would be looking at
> other places first. Get some UV oil dye from the local parts store and put
> in the oil. Then look to see where it is actually coming from.
>
> Oil flex hose to gauge, rear of valve cover, etc.  Also have seen them
> leak along the side of the rear main cap to the block, if they are not
> sealed up correctly.
>
> If it is the rear main leaking that much oil the seal will never stop it.
> You probably had to little clearance on the rear scroll and the seal
> surface is damaged.
>
>
> David Nock
> healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
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> *From:* Bob Begani via Healeys
> *Sent:* Friday, March 26, 2021 2:40 PM
> *To:* Austin Healey list
> *Subject:* [Healeys] 6-cylinder Rear Crankshaft Oil Seal Conversion Kit
>
>
> When we rebuilt my BJ8 Engine I bought the Oil Seal from Moss and my
> machinist friend installed it. I am confident he did a good job drilling
> and tapping holes etc.  I had hoped that I would not have rear crankshaft
> oil leaks.  In the past year I have driven the car a little over 1,000
> miles 25 miles at I time and recently noticed those infamous oil spots on
> the driveway.  Today I visited my British Car friends at Tech Central in
> Bonita Springs a 100-mile round trip on I-75 nonstop at 65-75 mph.
> Fortunately, I carried 2.5 quarts of oil because I had to use it to fill
> the crankcase when I got there and had to add 2.5 quarts when I got home.
> In addition, I notice the clutch slipping in 4th gear in overdrive if I
> accelerated.  No doubt caused by oil on surface of the friction plate.
>
>
>
> When I got home the weep hole in the transmission bell housing was
> producing one oil drop every three seconds and when running the engine at
> fast idle one drop of oil every second.
>
>
>
> Has anyone had a failure using this seal conversion kit?
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Bob - I put on a seal and still have leaks.<div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">David - thanks for the insight. Something t=
o look for.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" clas=
s=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 6:22 PM David Nock via Healeys &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">




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<div>These seals on the 6 cylinder cars are acutally a secondary rear main =
seal.=20
The original scroll seal is still there. Usually if there is a leak after=
=20
installing the aftermarket rubber seal it is not the main seal. It is usual=
ly=20
something else.=C2=A0 </div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>To leak 2.5 quarts of oil=C2=A0 in 100 miles is major. I would be look=
ing=20
at other places first. Get some UV oil dye from the local parts store and p=
ut in=20
the oil. Then look to see where it is actually coming from.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Oil flex hose to gauge, rear of valve cover, etc.=C2=A0 Also have seen=
 them=20
leak along the side of the rear main cap to the block, if they are not seal=
ed up=20
correctly.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>If it is the rear main leaking that much oil the seal will never stop =
it.=20
You probably had to little clearance on the rear scroll and the seal surfac=
e is=20
damaged.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:&#39;Century&#39;;COLOR:#000000">D=
avid=20
Nock<br><a href=3D"mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D=
"noreferrer">healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>209 948=20
8767<br><a href=3D"http://www.britishcarspecialists.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
rel=3D"noreferrer">www.britishcarspecialists.com</a><br><br>Help us have ou=
r Founder Norman=20
Nock inducteed into the <br>British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote fo=
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nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">www.britishsportscarhalloffame.org</a><br></div>
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<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer">Bo=
b=20
Begani via Healeys</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 26, 2021 2:40 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"noreferrer">Aust=
in Healey list</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] 6-cylinder Rear Crankshaft Oil Seal Conversi=
on=20
Kit</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Calibr=
i&quot;;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline">
<div class=3D"m_3780062050136601344WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif">When we rebuilt my BJ8=20
Engine I bought the Oil Seal from Moss and my machinist friend installed it=
. I=20
am confident he did a good job drilling and tapping holes etc.=C2=A0 I had =
hoped=20
that I would not have rear crankshaft oil leaks.=C2=A0 In the past year I h=
ave=20
driven the car a little over 1,000 miles 25 miles at I time and recently no=
ticed=20
those infamous oil spots on the driveway.=C2=A0 Today I visited my British =
Car=20
friends at Tech Central in Bonita Springs a 100-mile round trip on I-75 non=
stop=20
at 65-75 mph.=C2=A0 Fortunately, I carried 2.5 quarts of oil because I had =
to=20
use it to fill the crankcase when I got there and had to add 2.5 quarts whe=
n I=20
got home.=C2=A0 In addition, I notice the clutch slipping in 4<sup>th</sup>=
 gear=20
in overdrive if I accelerated.=C2=A0 No doubt caused by oil on surface of t=
he=20
friction plate.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif">When I got home the=20
weep hole in the transmission bell housing was producing one oil drop every=
=20
three seconds and when running the engine at fast idle one drop of oil ever=
y=20
second.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif">Has anyone had a=20
failure using this seal conversion kit?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif">Bob=20
Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE:14pt;FONT-FAMILY:&quot;Aria=
l&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span>=C2=A0</p></div>
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