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Re: [Healeys] Transmission / Overdrive or Clutch slippage

To: Rafael Abugattas <rafaelabugattas@yahoo.es>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Transmission / Overdrive or Clutch slippage
From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 20 May 2021 23:14:18 -0400
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Hi Rafael,
Bob and Roland have both given very good advice but I  feel a little more
diagnosis may help.
With the gearbox tunnel loose get the car hot enough that the reverse drive
problem is established.
Then remove the tunnel and then manually operate the overdrive valve by
pulling up on the lever on the side of the overdrive opposite the solenoid
several times.
Now remove the plug above the overdrive operating valve. Be careful as
there may be some residual pressure. Lift out the spring spring guide and
ball (use a magnet) then pull out the operating valve. This will ensure
that there is no oil pressure in the unit.
Now try reverse.
If the problem persists then the issue is mechanical and the suggestions
that others have made should be followed.

M

On Thu., May 20, 2021, 5:46 p.m. Rafael Abugattas via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Last year I requested your help regarding a strange overdrive or slippage
> problem I have in my 1962 Tricarb BT7.
>
> I received very valuable comments and suggestions but sadly the problem
> persists: Overdrive would not activate under any circumstances and when t=
he
> engine / transmission is warm and we engage reverse, the engine revs but
> the car won=C2=B4t move.
>
> There is slippage somewhere in the transmission / clutch or overdrive.
> When the car is cold, reverse engages without any issues. This only happe=
ns
> in reverse gear after the car has been driven a few miles and the engine
> and transmission are warm. Forward gears engage all the time without any
> issues.
>
> The car has been recently restored. Before the restoration the overdrive
> was operational. Now it=E2=80=99s not.
>
> The transmission and overdrive have been taken apart and assembled twice
> looking for something visually wrong. Everything seemed to be OK.
>
> The clutch and plate were also removed for inspection. The clutch was
> recently redone, adjusted and tested.
>
> A friend suggested we should verify the oil pressure on the overdrive. On
> this link you will find a couple of videos of a test we have recently don=
e
> with a manometer installed on the overdrive to check the oil pressure at
> different RPM=C2=B4s.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t5p8kqz6v6yduyt/AADizyVMyBKPozy284B-udA4a?dl=
=3D0
>
> The pressure on 3rd and 4th gears goes up to 400 psi and drops as it goes
> to lower gears. At idle is between 150 to 200 psi
>
> In forward gears the car runs fine; the problem that we need to solve is
> that the overdrive would not activate(even though it is connected and
> everything seems visually OK) and the slippage we have when engaging
> reverse (the car won=C2=B4t move) when the engine / transmission is warm.
>
> We are located in Lima =E2=80=93 Peru and as you may imagine, there are n=
ot many
> experts in this particular area of expertise.
>
> Any thoughts or suggestions from you collective knowledge and wisdom on
> how to proceed will be much appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Rafael
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Hi Rafael,=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">Bob and Roland have bot=
h given very good advice but I=C2=A0 feel a little more diagnosis may help.=
<div dir=3D"auto">With the gearbox tunnel loose get the car hot enough that=
 the reverse drive problem is established.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Then remo=
ve the tunnel and then manually operate the overdrive valve by pulling up o=
n the lever on the side of the overdrive opposite the solenoid several time=
s.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">Now remove the plug above the overdrive ope=
rating valve. Be careful as there may be some residual pressure. Lift out t=
he spring spring guide and ball (use a magnet) then pull out the operating =
valve. This will ensure that there is no oil pressure in the unit.</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto">Now try reverse.</div><div dir=3D"auto">If the problem=C2=A0=
persists then the issue is mechanical and the suggestions that others have =
made should be followed.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"=
>M</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu., May 20, 2021, 5:46 p.m. Rafael Abugattas via Heale=
ys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0=
 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div><p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=
;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Hi all,</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Last year I requested
your help regarding a strange overdrive or slippage problem I have in my 19=
62
Tricarb BT7. </span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">I received very
valuable comments and suggestions but sadly the problem persists: Overdrive
would not activate under any circumstances and when the engine / transmissi=
on
is warm and we engage reverse, the engine revs but the car won=C2=B4t move.=
 </span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">There is slippage
somewhere in the transmission / clutch or overdrive. When the car is cold,
reverse engages without any issues. This only happens in reverse gear after=
 the
car has been driven a few miles and the engine and transmission are warm.
Forward gears engage all the time without any issues.</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The car has been
recently restored. Before the restoration the overdrive was operational. No=
w
it=E2=80=99s not. </span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The transmission and
overdrive have been taken apart and assembled twice looking for something
visually wrong. Everything seemed to be OK.</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">The clutch and plate
were also removed for inspection. The clutch was recently redone, adjusted =
and
tested.</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">A friend suggested we
should verify the oil pressure on the overdrive. On this link you will find=
 a
couple of videos of a test we have recently done with a manometer installed=
 on
the overdrive to check the oil pressure at different RPM=C2=B4s. </span></p=
>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif"><a href=3D"https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t5p8kq=
z6v6yduyt/AADizyVMyBKPozy284B-udA4a?dl=3D0" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/t5p8kqz6v6yduyt/AADizyVMyBKPozy28=
4B-udA4a?dl=3D0</a></span></p>

<p><span>The pressure on 3rd and 4th gears goes up
to 400 psi and drops as it goes to lower gears. At idle is between 150 to 2=
00
psi</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">In forward gears the
car runs fine; the problem that we need to solve is that the overdrive woul=
d not
activate(even though it is connected and everything seems visually OK) and =
the
slippage we have when engaging reverse (the car won=C2=B4t move) when the e=
ngine /
transmission is warm.</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">We are located in
Lima =E2=80=93 Peru and as you may imagine, there are not many experts in t=
his
particular area of expertise.</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Any thoughts or suggestions
from you collective knowledge and wisdom on how to proceed will be much
appreciated. </span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks in advance!</span></p>

<p style=3D"background:white;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-=
color:initial;word-spacing:0px"><span lang=3D"ES-MX" style=3D"font-size:11.=
0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">Rafael</span></p>

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