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To: Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] air ducting kit
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2021 07:34:46 -0400
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Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the float chambers
when the vapor occurs.
I'll be interested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again=
.

M

On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather
> as expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I
> stopped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the
> gauge to hit 200 which vapor locks me every time. So I push back, lift th=
e
> lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes and then it fires up. That usual=
ly
> attracts an audience which helps pass the time.   :-)
> A pulley change on my car wouldn=E2=80=99t make a difference IMO.
>
> Regards,
> Richard C
> BN7 440
>
> On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putting a smaller p=
ulley on
> the water pump for more flow? Would that just make turbulence/cavitation =
in
> the pump and hose?
>
> bs
>
>
> On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:
>
> Hi Ira:
>
>
>
> I am not familiar with the direction of air around the radiator in the
> BN4, however, the BJ8=E2=80=99s has deflectors built in to the frame in f=
ront of
> the radiator, but, not for the wind that drops down under the radiator.  =
So
> the introduction of the shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a
> hurricane velocity up and through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone
> should be sufficient to cool water.  But it does not move the water very
> fast through the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rpms.
> So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it does get
> hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to the
> engine through the water pump and back to the radiator.  it adds 150 lite=
r
> per minute to the trickle produced by the mechanical pump.  I fact one of
> the listeners commented that he could turn off the fan and just keep the
> water pump operating on highway speeds. It was easy to install using
> existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to th=
e
> inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8th diameter holes in the thermostat to
> allow the water to flow during engine warm up.
>
>
>
> After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a few min after the
> engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the hot water.  And, I
> have a large radiator overflow container to absorb boil over.
>
>
>
> Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric fans, overflow
> containers, and some have an electric water pump.  21st century
> technology verses our 20th century.  They even have AC power steering
> etc. systems as standard equipment.
>
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM
> *To:* Ahealey help <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Healeys] air ducting kit
>
>
>
> I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time and it has become an
> identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just have had various
> reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and have been looki=
ng
> at the Cape International kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that
> directs more air through the Rad cores is good .
>
> So has anyone done this or another kit?
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/
>
> https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Milwaukie,OR
>
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
>
>
>
> 1967 MGB  [image: MG]
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Some time Richard try dribbling some cool water over the =
float chambers when the vapor occurs.=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto">I&#39;ll be in=
terested to hear how well that works to get you on your way again.</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div class=3D"g=
mail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri., Jun. 4, 2021, 12=
:02 a.m. Richard Collins via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex">



<div dir=3D"auto">
My vapor lock issue occurs for example at long stop lights in hot weather a=
s expected to some extant, not while driving; but the other day when I stop=
ped to refuel, the heatsink after turning off the engine caused the gauge t=
o hit 200 which vapor locks me every
 time. So I push back, lift the lid and air the engine for 10-15 minutes an=
d then it fires up. That usually attracts an audience which helps pass the =
time. =C2=A0 :-)<br>
A pulley change on my car wouldn=E2=80=99t make a difference IMO.
<div><br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div>BN7 440</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 3, 2021, at 22:32, Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">bspid=
ell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF Somewhat relevant, I hope: Has anyone tried putt=
ing a smaller pulley on the water pump for more flow? Would that just make =
turbulence/cavitation in the pump and hose?<br>
<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 6/3/2021 2:11 PM, Bob Begani via Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">


<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif">Hi Ira:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif">I am not familiar with the direction of air around th=
e radiator in the BN4, however, the BJ8=E2=80=99s has deflectors built in t=
o the frame in front of the radiator, but, not for the
 wind that drops down under the radiator.=C2=A0 So the introduction of the =
shovel from the frame to the radiator produces a hurricane velocity up and =
through the radiator on the BJ8. That alone should be sufficient to cool wa=
ter.=C2=A0 But it does not move the water
 very fast through the engine back to the radiator, especially under low rp=
ms.=C2=A0 So I have introduced an electric water pump (Aussie idea, as it d=
oes get hot down under) to keep the flow of water through the radiator to t=
he engine through the water pump and
 back to the radiator.=C2=A0 it adds 150 liter per minute to the trickle pr=
oduced by the mechanical pump.=C2=A0 I fact one of the listeners commented =
that he could turn off the fan and just keep the water pump operating on hi=
ghway speeds. It was easy to install using
 existing hoses cut in half going from the bottom of the radiator up to the=
 inlet on the engine, and 2 x 1/8<sup>th</sup> diameter holes in the thermo=
stat to allow the water to flow during engine warm up.<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif">After a run, I keep both the fan/EWP operating for a =
few min after the engine shut down which helps to reduce flashing of the ho=
t water.=C2=A0 And, I have a large radiator overflow
 container to absorb boil over.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif">Why do you think most cars and trucks have electric f=
ans, overflow containers, and some have an electric water pump.=C2=A0 21<su=
p>st</sup> century technology verses our 20<sup>th</sup>
 century.=C2=A0 They even have AC power steering etc. systems as standard e=
quipment.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif">Best regards,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif">Bob Begani<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:18.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ar=
ial&quot;,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounc=
es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>i erbs via H=
ealeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, June 3, 2021 4:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ahealey help <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] air ducting kit<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have not had my grille in my BN4 for a long time a=
nd it has become an identifying feature of my car. I have a grille, I just =
have had various reasons to not instal it. I like the Rally grill look and =
have been looking at the Cape International
 kits to accomplish the look. Plus anything that directs more air through t=
he Rad cores is good .<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">So has anyone done this or another kit?<u></u><u></u=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/radi=
ator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https:/=
/cape-international.com/parts/radiator-air-ducting-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><u></u><=
u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://cape-international.com/parts/mesh=
-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://cape-int=
ernational.com/parts/mesh-grille-kit-bn4-bj8/</a><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Milwaukie,OR<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot;Times New Roman&quo=
t;,serif">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 _______ =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
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=A0 =C2=A0_______<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)<br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 (_________________________)</span><u></u>=
<u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 BT7 engine and di=
sk brakes<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">1967 MGB =C2=A0<img style=3D"width:.525in;height:.50=
83in" id=3D"m_3252487211781717232_x0000_i1025" src=3D"http://www.britishcar=
specialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg" alt=3D"MG" width=3D"50" height=
=3D"49" border=3D"0"><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:&quot;He=
lvetica&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333">A racing car is an animal with a th=
ousand adjustments. Mario Andretti</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled wo=
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