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Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Setting Lever O-Ring

To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Setting Lever O-Ring
From: David Nock via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 20:58:22 -0700
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
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Only the  3 speed transmissions used a seal.  All the 4 speed transmissions u=
sed an O  ring.=20

David Nock

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 29, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> I have an update. The OD Setting Lever is off but it put up a good fight. I=
 tried a number of different methods but in the end a big hammer and stubby p=
unch the right diameter worked. I first tried a 3/32 pin punch and smaller h=
ammer but the punch bent without moving the pin. Next attempt was a home mad=
e punch from a nail with a short point and a bigger hammer. Again the point j=
ust bent and deformed. I rigged up a c-clamp and tried to press the pin out.=
 Hard to keep straight and the pressing pin bent again. I was running out of=
 ideas and discovered a T10 Torx bit is the right diameter and is hardened a=
nd stubby. I used a T10 Torx bit and extension from a cheap set and the bigg=
est hammer I had and was successful.
> =20
> I can confirm the pin is definitely a taper pin. The OE part number and de=
scription is =E2=80=9CTPS0405     Pin - taper - lever to shaft=E2=80=9D. Mea=
suring the pin I removed it is a standard taper pin size 3/0, large end diam=
eter 0.125=E2=80=9D. The length is 5/8=E2=80=9D. Both the holes in the shaft=
 and lever are tapered with the big end towards the bottom of the transmissi=
on. There is another taper pin the same size on the shaft inside the overdri=
ve so there is no way around removing taper pins to change the seal. I check=
ed a BT7 and BJ8 parts list and both list TPS0405 as the pins. It looks like=
 this is what was used on all Healey OD units.
> =20
> My transmission has an o-ring on the shaft which looks to be in good shape=
 but still leaked. Others on this forum pointed out originally there was a l=
ip seal and I will replace the o-ring with the proper lip seal.
> =20
> On the positive side the seal can be replaced without dismantling the OD a=
nd with the transmission still in the car.
> =20
> Thanks for all your tips and suggestions.
> =20
> Harold
> =20
> From: Bluehealey via Healeys
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2021 11:38 AM
> To: Steven Kingsbury
> Cc: Healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Setting Lever O-Ring
> =20
> The hole is first drilled with the small end size then reamed with a taper=
ed reamer to suit the pin.
> =20
> Alan - from my iPad
>=20
>=20
> On 29 Jun 2021, at 19:23, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> The pin I removed was definitely tapered. As for drilling a tapered hole, I=
 have no idea, but maybe one side of the lever was drilled one size and the o=
ther side a smaller size with the shaft going through the center drilled to a=
 specific size.=20
> =20
>=20
> On June 29, 2021 at 11:02 AM, David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com> wrote:
>=20
> It's not tapered. How does one drill a tapered hole through?
>=20
> On 6/29/2021 11:42 AM, Elton S via Healeys wrote:
> I also have the same leak. Once you find out the location of the big end o=
f the tapered pin, could you let me know? Mine is buried in a few coats of p=
aint.
> Elton
> =20
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 2:42 PM Harold Manifold via Healeys <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:
> Hello,
> =20
> I have a leak from the O-Ring behind the Setting lever on the overdrive. I=
 know the O-Ring can be replaced without disassembling the overdrive unit on=
ce the setting lever is removed. The setting lever on my overdrive is held i=
nplace with a solid push pin. Likely the original pin. I have tried to remov=
e the pin with the right sized punch but it doesn=E2=80=99t budge.
> =20
> Before I break something, does anyone know what type of pin was likely use=
d? Is it a straight pin or a tapered pin? If it is tapered pin any tips on f=
iguring out which is the big end. There is always drilling but not the easie=
st place to get at.
> =20
> Thanks=E2=80=A6. Harold
> =20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Only the &nbsp;3 speed transmissions used a=
 seal. &nbsp;All the 4 speed transmissions used an O &nbsp;ring.&nbsp;<br><b=
r><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>David Nock</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jun 29, 2021, at 7:02 P=
M, Harold Manifold &lt;manifold@telus.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></d=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I have an upda=
te. The OD Setting Lever is off but it put up a good fight. I tried a number=
 of different methods but in the end a big hammer and stubby punch the right=
 diameter worked. I first tried a 3/32 pin punch and smaller hammer but the p=
unch bent without moving the pin. Next attempt was a home made punch from a n=
ail with a short point and a bigger hammer. Again the point just bent and de=
formed. I rigged up a c-clamp and tried to press the pin out. Hard to keep s=
traight and the pressing pin bent again. I was running out of ideas and disc=
overed a T10 Torx bit is the right diameter and is hardened and stubby. I us=
ed a T10 Torx bit and extension from a cheap set and the biggest hammer I ha=
d and was successful.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">I can confirm the pin is definitely a taper pin. The OE part=
 number and description is =E2=80=9CTPS0405&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pin - ta=
per - lever to shaft=E2=80=9D. Measuring the pin I removed it is a standard t=
aper pin size 3/0, large end diameter 0.125=E2=80=9D. The length is 5/8=E2=80=
=9D. Both the holes in the shaft and lever are tapered with the big end towa=
rds the bottom of the transmission. There is another taper pin the same size=
 on the shaft inside the overdrive so there is no way around removing taper p=
ins to change the seal. I checked a BT7 and BJ8 parts list and both list TPS=
0405 as the pins. It looks like this is what was used on all Healey OD units=
.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My t=
ransmission has an o-ring on the shaft which looks to be in good shape but s=
till leaked. Others on this forum pointed out originally there was a lip sea=
l and I will replace the o-ring with the proper lip seal.</p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On the positive side the=
 seal can be replaced without dismantling the OD and with the transmission s=
till in the car.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Thanks for all your tips and suggestions.</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Harold<o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div style=3D"mso-element:para-border-di=
v;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>Bluehealey via Healeys</a><br><b>Sent: </b>T=
uesday, June 29, 2021 11:38 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:airtightprodu=
ctions@icloud.com">Steven Kingsbury</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href=3D"mailto:Heal=
eys@autox.team.net">Healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Heale=
ys] Overdrive Setting Lever O-Ring</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The hole is first drilled with the small e=
nd size then reamed with a tapered reamer to suit the pin.<o:p></o:p></p><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Al=
an - from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><o=
:p></o:p></p><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">On 29 Jun 2021, at 19:23, S=
teven Kingsbury via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p></blockquote></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=EF=BB=BF<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">The pin I removed was definitely tapered. As for drilling a tapere=
d hole, I have no idea, but maybe one side of the lever was drilled one size=
 and the other side a smaller size with the shaft going through the center d=
rilled to a specific size.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:12.0pt"><br>On June 29, 2021 at 11:02 AM, David P &lt;frogeye@porters=
custom.com&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style=3D"margin-t=
op:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p>It's not tapered. How does one drill a=
 tapered hole through?</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 6/29/2021 11:42 AM,=
 Elton S via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-=
top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also have the s=
ame leak. Once you find out the location of the big end of the tapered pin, c=
ould you let me know? Mine is buried in a few coats of paint.<o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Elton<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon, Jun 28,=
 2021 at 2:42 PM Harold Manifold via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0i=
n 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello,</p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-al=
t:auto">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I have a leak from the O-Ring behind the Setting l=
ever on the overdrive. I know the O-Ring can be replaced without disassembli=
ng the overdrive unit once the setting lever is removed. The setting lever o=
n my overdrive is held inplace with a solid push pin. Likely the original pi=
n. I have tried to remove the pin with the right sized punch but it doesn=E2=
=80=99t budge.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Before I break something, does a=
nyone know what type of pin was likely used? Is it a straight pin or a taper=
ed pin? If it is tapered pin any tips on figuring out which is the big end. T=
here is always drilling but not the easiest place to get at.</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbs=
p;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bot=
tom-alt:auto">Thanks=E2=80=A6. Harold</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso=
-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">&nbsp;</p></div></div><p cl=
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