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Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, straws ... Did you lube the
splines with anything? I know it's a slight risk given grease could be
slung onto the disk or cover plate--although engine oil will likely end
up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've always done it with no issues
(if anybody cares, my favorite product for things like this is Redline's
wheel bearing grease).
I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never heard
of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input shaft.
On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via Healeys wrote:
>
> I agree with Richard â?? I go through the same â??microâ?? centering process.
>
> *From:*richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* September 26, 2021 12:39 PM
> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Cc:* m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca; Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
>
> One suggestion:Â When you use the centering tool (plastic or
> otherwise), tilt the tool all the way up then all the way down, then
> do the same from side to side, then split the difference with the tool
> in place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts. I personally go
> through this routine at least 2 or 3 times to make sure I am as close
> to the center position as possible.
>
> One question: Why do you think the metal input shaft is harder to use
> than the plastic tool?  The input shaft is much longer than the
> plastic tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center
> position when moving it through its range of motion as you align the
> disc.
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon Lachlan via Healeys
>
> To revert to the problem Iâ??ve being having with my gearbox not
> wanting to reinstall to my new clutch��
>
> Bleeding it made no difference.. It was a forlorn hope as I was
> sure Iâ??d not lost any fluid but miracles are always welcome.
>
> The gearbox is on the workshop floor as is the new clutch.
>
> Before removing the new clutch I played around with the AH Spares
> plastic alignment tool and my spare shaft. Both went in without
> any trouble but I suppose they would have anyhow unless theyâ??d
> been miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in the
> gearbox just as it should.
>
> See attached file��Seems to me that the old clutch was in pretty
> good shape and, with benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have
> left well alone! Itâ??s been in there for 27 years that I know of.
> There were/are a few discrepancies between the old and new
> clutches. See attached. I donâ??t think these would matter????
>
> Are there any obvious steps that I might have missed? Obvious,
> but, seemingly, not to me!
>
> I havenâ??t taken out the flywheel. Didnâ??t see why? Itâ??s in; itâ??s
> straight/vertical and works.
>
> People state a preference for alignment with a spare shaft rather
> than the black plastic tool. I can see that the metal shaft might
> be somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely?
>
> Iâ??m reluctant to reinstall and just repeat the whole sorry processâ?¦.
>
> Any suggestion?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Simon
>
>
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Since we're grasping at input shafts, er, straws ... Did you lube
the splines with anything? I know it's a slight risk given grease
could be slung onto the disk or cover plate--although engine oil
will likely end up in the vicinity sooner or later--I've always done
it with no issues (if anybody cares, my favorite product for things
like this is Redline's wheel bearing grease).<br>
<br>
I'm probably wrong, but I don't think 'centering' is the issue, as I
think Simon was probably pretty careful about it, and I've never
heard of anybody having trouble with a centering tool or input
shaft.<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2021 8:02 AM, m.g.sharp--- via
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
agree with Richard â?? I go through the same â??microâ?? centering
process.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>Â </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"> richard mayor <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";><boyracer466@gmail.com></a>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> September 26, 2021 12:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
href="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca";>m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca</a>; Healeys
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] New Clutch
query<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One suggestion:Â When you use the
centering tool (plastic or otherwise), tilt the tool all
the way up then all the way down, then do the same from
side to side, then split the difference with the tool in
place when you tighten the pressure plate bolts. I
personally go through this routine at least 2 or 3 times
to make sure I am as close to the center position as
possible.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">One question: Why do you think the
metal input shaft is harder to use than the plastic
tool?  The input shaft is much longer than the plastic
tool and you can get a better feel for finding the center
position when moving it through its range of motion as you
align the disc. <o:p></o:p></p>
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</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Sep 26, 2021 at 7:42 AM Simon
Lachlan via Healeys <<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
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lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">To revert to the problem Iâ??ve being
having with my gearbox not wanting to reinstall to
my new clutch��<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Bleeding it made no difference.. It was
a forlorn hope as I was sure Iâ??d not lost any fluid
but miracles are always welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">The gearbox is on the workshop floor as
is the new clutch.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Before removing the new clutch I played
around with the AH Spares plastic alignment tool and
my spare shaft. Both went in without any trouble but
I suppose they would have anyhow unless theyâ??d been
miles out?? The new clutch slides onto the shaft in
the gearbox just as it should.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">See attached file��Seems to me that the
old clutch was in pretty good shape and, with
benefit of 20/20 hindsight, one might have left well
alone! Itâ??s been in there for 27 years that I know
of. There were/are a few discrepancies between the
old and new clutches. See attached. I donâ??t think
these would matter????<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Are there any obvious steps that I
might have missed? Obvious, but, seemingly, not to
me!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">I havenâ??t taken out the flywheel.
Didnâ??t see why? Itâ??s in; itâ??s straight/vertical and
works.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">People state a preference for alignment
with a spare shaft rather than the black plastic
tool. I can see that the metal shaft might be
somewhat more precise, but harder to use surely?
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Iâ??m reluctant to reinstall and just
repeat the whole sorry processâ?¦.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Any suggestion?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Â <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-GB">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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