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Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query

To: <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] New Clutch query
From: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2021 11:14:43 -0400
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Simon, you seemed to have covered all the bases.  Again respectfully, =
how are so sure that nothing is binding on the pilot bush?  I am not =
sure the best way to check it but if possible, if you can remove it and =
actually slide it onto the output shaft on the g=E2=80=99box, that would =
be best.  If the bush is firmly in there (and it usually is!), I suggest =
you might offer up the gearbox to the engine without the clutch in place =
and see if it slides in easily and that you can get the bell housing all =
the way up to the rear engine plate.  That is a lot more work, but would =
absolutely rule out any issue with the pilot bush.=20

=20

I assume that the throw bearing is in good shape and moves easily in the =
fork of the clutch arm.  I am grasping at straws now!

=20

As others have said, I spend a lot of time checking the gap between the =
bell housing and the engine plate when I am putting a g=E2=80=99box back =
to ensure it is even all the way around and the g=E2=80=99box goes in =
perfectly square.

=20

Wish I were closer, I=E2=80=99d gladly lend a hand.

=20

I just have a few last things to put back on my motor and Michael and I =
are going to start it up after a fresh rebuild, hopefully Wednesday.

=20

Cheers, Mirek

=20

From: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =
<simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>=20
Sent: September 27, 2021 8:43 AM
To: 'richard mayor' <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Cc: m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca; 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] New Clutch query

=20

=20

Thank you everybody for your replies.=20

=20

Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to centering the clutch by moving the =
alignment tool back and forth, up/down seems very sensible and =
I=E2=80=99ll try that.

=20

I said that I thought the black plastic alignment tool was easier to use =
than the shaft because, with plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate =
to the flywheel then wind on the cover as no part of the tool is wider =
than the hole in the centre of the cover. With the shaft, one has to put =
it through cover and clutch plate and then fight the pair up and onto =
the flywheel.=20

=20

Two people found (very!) polite ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the =
clutch plate on backwards. Sadly not; that might have produced an =
instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past being offended by such questions.=20

=20

Nothing is binding in the spigot bush/pilot bearing. Another instant =
cure missed.

=20

No slop in the  clutch lever bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and =
clevis pin were in a bad way although that had not  -   previously =
=E2=80=93 impinged. I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.

=20

I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. =
(Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, =
of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he makes reference to the importance =
attached to these bolts as a =E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His =
maths makes perfect sense, as you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be =
sure to put them in per the book).

=20

I did have a jack under the engine and will again.=20

=20

Barring anything new received from you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to =
try again, paying great attention to the plate being centred and the =
engine/gearbox being at compatible angles.

=20

No attempt today as son-in-law is at work! It is definitely a task where =
an Arnie-lookalike is extremely useful.

=20

Simon

=20

=20


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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon, you seemed to have covered =
all the bases.=C2=A0 Again respectfully, how are so sure that nothing is =
binding on the pilot bush?=C2=A0 I am not sure the best way to check it =
but if possible, if you can remove it and actually slide it onto the =
output shaft on the g=E2=80=99box, that would be best.=C2=A0 If the bush =
is firmly in there (and it usually is!), I suggest you might offer up =
the gearbox to the engine <u>without</u> the clutch in place and see if =
it slides in easily and that you can get the bell housing all the way up =
to the rear engine plate.=C2=A0 That is a lot more work, but would =
absolutely rule out any issue with the pilot bush. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I assume =
that the throw bearing is in good shape and moves easily in the fork of =
the clutch arm.=C2=A0 I am grasping at straws =
now!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As others =
have said, I spend a lot of time checking the gap between the bell =
housing and the engine plate when I am putting a g=E2=80=99box back to =
ensure it is even all the way around and the g=E2=80=99box goes in =
perfectly square.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Wish I were =
closer, I=E2=80=99d gladly lend a hand.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I just have =
a few last things to put back on my motor and Michael and I are going to =
start it up after a fresh rebuild, hopefully =
Wednesday.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Cheers, =
Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> =
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com =
&lt;simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> September 27, =
2021 8:43 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'richard mayor' =
&lt;boyracer466@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca; =
'Healeys' &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: =
[Healeys] New Clutch query<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thank you everybody for your =
replies. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Richard=E2=80=99s advice as to =
centering the clutch by moving the alignment tool back and forth, =
up/down seems very sensible and I=E2=80=99ll try =
that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I said that I thought the black =
plastic alignment tool was easier to use than the shaft because, with =
plastic tool, one can plug the clutch plate to the flywheel then wind on =
the cover as no part of the tool is wider than the hole in the centre of =
the cover. With the shaft, one has to put it through cover and clutch =
plate and then fight the pair up and onto the flywheel. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Two people found (very!) polite =
ways of asking if I=E2=80=99d put the clutch plate on backwards. Sadly =
not; that might have produced an instant cure. I=E2=80=99m way past =
being offended by such questions. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nothing is binding in the spigot =
bush/pilot bearing. Another instant cure missed.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No slop in the&nbsp; clutch lever =
bushings. The slave=E2=80=99s push rod and clevis pin were in a bad way =
although that had not&nbsp; -&nbsp;&nbsp; previously =E2=80=93 impinged. =
I=E2=80=99ve ordered new ones anyhow.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I=E2=80=99ve got the two dowel =
bolts and used them at 11:00 and 17:30. (Incidentally, I=E2=80=99ve got =
on file an email, 11 June =E2=80=9902, of Michael=E2=80=99s in which he =
makes reference to the importance attached to these bolts as a =
=E2=80=9Ctempest in a teapot=E2=80=9D. His maths makes perfect sense, as =
you=E2=80=99d expect, but I=E2=80=99ll be sure to put them in per the =
book).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I did have a jack under the engine =
and will again. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Barring anything new received from =
you guys, I=E2=80=99ll just have to try again, paying great attention to =
the plate being centred and the engine/gearbox being at compatible =
angles.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>No attempt today as son-in-law is =
at work! It is definitely a task where an Arnie-lookalike is extremely =
useful.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-GB =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div></=
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