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To: "'Harold Manifold'" <manifold@telus.net>, "'Richard Mayor'" <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
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Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 22:52:03 -0700
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Hi Herold,

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I am puzzled by your statement that a thermostat can maintain a coolant =
temperature of + 20 degrees. Once a thermostat has opened at its set =
temperature, at least for our 1950=E2=80=99s engine technology, I =
believe the thermostat cannot regulate the coolant temperature unless =
the operating conditions of the engine are radically changed because the =
coolant temperature would be regulated by the air flow through the =
radiator. To put it another way, once the thermostat is fully open the =
coolant temperature is regulated by the radiator, if the thermostat were =
to close the coolant temperature would be regulated by the engine =
temperature which could only be higher because of the combustion =
temperatures.=20

=20

John

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Harold =
Manifold
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2025 1:52 PM
To: Richard Mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com>; Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

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Hi All,

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Thermostats always generate interesting discussions.

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I use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally =
important is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant =
temperature. A thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no =
longer actively controlling the temperature. The normal operating range =
is typically the opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a =
165-degree thermostat should maintain the temperature between 165 and =
185 degrees, while a 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 =
and 200 degrees.

=20

If your current thermostat maintains the coolant temperature within its =
specified range under normal driving conditions, then it's the correct =
one for your needs.

=20

Harold

=20

On Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36=E2=80=AFPM Richard Mayor =

165 is too cold for good running.  Our engines run better in the 180 to =
190 range. =20

=20

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On Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys =

Gents,

     What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine =
performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that =
specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run =
fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've =
checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks =
to all who respond.

rich antal

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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Hi =
Herold,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I am puzzled =
by your statement that a thermostat can maintain a coolant temperature =
of <u>+</u> 20 degrees. Once a thermostat has opened at its set =
temperature, at least for our 1950=E2=80=99s engine technology, I =
believe the thermostat cannot regulate the coolant temperature unless =
the operating conditions of the engine are radically changed because the =
coolant temperature would be regulated by the air flow through the =
radiator. To put it another way, once the thermostat is fully open the =
coolant temperature is regulated by the radiator, if the thermostat were =
to close the coolant temperature would be regulated by the engine =
temperature which could only be higher because of the combustion =
temperatures. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>John<o:p></o:=
p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 =
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys &lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Harold Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 17, 2025 1:52 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Richard Mayor =
&lt;boyracer466@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Richard Antal =
&lt;rantal243@yahoo.com&gt;; Healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] radiator =
thermostat<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi =
All,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thermostats always generate interesting =
discussions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
use a 180-degree thermostat in my car. However, what's equally important =
is how effectively the thermostat regulates the coolant temperature. A =
thermostat that is fully closed or fully open is no longer actively =
controlling the temperature. The normal operating range is typically the =
opening temperature plus 20 degrees. For example, a 165-degree =
thermostat should maintain the temperature between 165 and 185 degrees, =
while a 180-degree thermostat should keep it between 180 and 200 =
degrees.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>If your current thermostat maintains the coolant =
temperature within its specified range under normal driving conditions, =
then it's the correct one for your needs.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Sep 17, 2025 at 1:36<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM Richard =
Mayor &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com";>boyracer466@gmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>165 =
is too cold for good running.&nbsp; Our engines run better in the 180 to =
190 range. &nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from my iPad<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13<span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=E2=80=AF</span>PM, Robert =
Markovich via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=EF=BB=BF</span> 165 is the =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p style=3D'margin-top:0in'><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.5pt;color:#8473FF'>On Wednesday, September 17, =
2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Gents,<o:p>=
</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>&nbsp; =
&nbsp; &nbsp;What is the desired coolant temperature for optimal engine =
performance? I've searched the tech articles and can find nothing that =
specifically answers that question. This summer my BJ8 seemed to run =
fine with a 160 thermostat which, according to the gauge which I've =
checked and found to be accurate, kept the coolant at around 165. Thanks =
to all who respond.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>rich =
antal<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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