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Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat

To: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net> N4pcSt6hJAgnpyogCjGiMIsTxqn7vtXSyyN4M+iO2Z3VL+2zeYm9fR2FNGbG9EyGVOetQCusBruB6sJlAQw/DrUFqphlT/rRFeTV/OqUWqb2/RAmP/XlFA35
Subject: Re: [Healeys] radiator thermostat
From: Simon Lachlan via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2025 21:15:53 +0100
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>, Richard Antal <rantal243@yahoo.com>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi,&nbsp;<div>The original sleeved ones are=
 - I think - easier to find in the UK. Certainly, I managed to find a few. I=
 was advised that the Morgan people were a good source. I bought mine on eBa=
y but that was a while ago. Simon<br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote t=
ype=3D"cite">On 18 Sep 2025, at 18:54, Harold Manifold &lt;manifold@telus.ne=
t&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi All,</div><div><br></div><div>Thermo=
stats and Healey cooling always generate interesting discussions, and I'd li=
ke to clarify my previous comments on what controls (or often doesn't contro=
l) the coolant temperature.</div><div><br></div><div>To summarize some of th=
e points made: Coolant flows down the radiator, out the bottom hose, and int=
o the water pump. It's then pumped into the engine block's cooling jacket. T=
he goal is to direct the coolest fluid to the hottest part of the engine for=
 optimal heat transfer (i.e., the largest delta T). The coolant, having abso=
rbed heat, then moves up to the cylinder head, through the thermostat, and b=
ack to the radiator. This process is known as thermosiphoning, where heated c=
oolant rises through the engine and falls as it cools in the radiator.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>The heat generated by the engine is a function of the co=
mbustion process (timing, carburation, etc.) and horsepower efficiency loss.=
 More horsepower output means more heat transferred to the coolant. The radi=
ator removes this heat, but its effectiveness is proportional to the differe=
nce between the air and coolant temperatures.</div><div><br></div><div>Assum=
ing the radiator has sufficient capacity to remove heat, if the coolant temp=
erature the thermostat "sees" is less than its opening temperature plus 20 d=
egrees, the thermostat will slightly close to restrict flow to the radiator.=
 In this scenario, the thermostat is actively controlling the coolant temper=
ature. However, if the coolant temperature exceeds 20 degrees above the ther=
mostat's opening temperature, then the coolant temperature is primarily a fu=
nction of the incoming air temperature, and the thermostat is no longer a fa=
ctor. In such cases, the coolant temperature is effectively uncontrolled by t=
he thermostat.</div><div><br></div><div>To add to the discussion, the engine=
 fan has minimal effect at speeds greater than 15 miles per hour.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Harold</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_c=
ontainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 8:46=
=E2=80=AFAM David Nock via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

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  <div style=3D"padding-bottom:1px">
    <p>The thermostat does not control the high end temperature of the
      engine. Its job is to get the engine up to an operating
      temperature as soon as possible. Then in maintains the low end
      temperature of the engine. Once the thermostat is open the engine
      temperature is controlled by the radiator, radiator fan and air
      flow.</p>
    <p>On the 6 cylinder engine there is a sleeve attached to the
      thermostat, that blocks off a bypass in the cylinder head. The
      bypass is there to allow the coolant to flow when the thermostat
      is closed. Once the thermostat is open the sleeve is there to
      block the bypass allowing ALL the coolant to flow thru the
      radiator.&nbsp;</p>
    <p>David Nock</p>
    <p>British Car Specialists</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <div>On 9/17/2025 12:54 PM, Richard Mayor
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
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      165 is too cold for good running.&nbsp; Our engines run better in the
      180 to 190 range. &nbsp;
      <div>&nbsp;</div>
      <div><br>
        <div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>
          <div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">On Sep 17, 2025, at 12:13=E2=80=AFPM, R=
obert
              Markovich via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=
" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
              wrote:<br>
              <br>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <blockquote type=3D"cite">
            <div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
              165 is the one I use<br>
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              <p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(132,115,255);padding-top:=
15px;margin-top:0px">On
                Wednesday, September 17, 2025, 2:50 PM, Richard Antal
                via Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote:</p>
              <blockquote>
                <div id=3D"m_2673071501772592614yiv6324880639">
                  <div>
                    <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Hel=
vetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">Gents,</div>
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;What is the desir=
ed coolant
                        temperature for optimal engine performance? I've
                        searched the tech articles and can find nothing
                        that specifically answers that question. This
                        summer my BJ8 seemed to run fine with a 160
                        thermostat which, according to the gauge which
                        I've checked and found to be accurate, kept the
                        coolant at around 165. Thanks to all who
                        respond.</div>
                      <div dir=3D"ltr">rich antal</div>
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