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Re: Handling & Weight

To: "David Haller" <dhaller@techline.com>
Subject: Re: Handling & Weight
From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 1999 10:41:33 -0400
Dave

To my way of thinking it's got to be better than that big parachute you've
got sitting on the hood right now.

JB


At 05:14 PM 6/19/99 -0700, David Haller wrote:
>Hey John,
>Forgot to tell you I do have another air scoop for carb.  It sits with the
>opening to the windshield. I'm wondering if it will draw enough air that way
>to feed the holley 950 double pumper that's on the Victor Jr. 4x4 intake. I
>was thinking of putting a naca duct on it, maybe the top and let air in the
>engine compartment escape out the opening to the rear. What do you think?
>Dave Haller
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
>To: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
>Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 8:43 AM
>Subject: Re: Handling & Weight
>
>
>>Dave
>>
>>Your front air dam may need some work at some time, but right now you need
>>to concentrate on the handling. Sort out the air dam after you've driven
>>the car some. I guess I'd be more concerned with getting rid of that hood
>>scoop myself.
>>
>>How long have you been on the list? If you can go back a week or so there
>>have been some good ongoing comments on center of gravity and pressure that
>>apply to your problem.
>>
>>Move the weight up front...fuel, water, batteries etc...without having the
>>car in front of me its hard to tell you where...along the sides of the
>>engine, front axle, etc. Make provisions to add lead ballest as required,
>>maybe as much as 250 lbs.
>>
>>Now keep in mind that this won't help your traction situation any. Get it
>>to handle first and use the spoiler for down force and traction as needed.
>>
>>Are you planning to got to Bonneville this year?
>>
>>John Beckett
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 08:07 AM 6/19/99 -0700, David Haller wrote:
>>>Hi John,
>>>I'll send you a picture too. If you look at the front spoiler I think you
>>>will see it sits plenty low but I'm not sure it's working well enough to
>>>divert air around the front creating the needed vacum under the car, what
>do
>>>you think? Also, any ideas on weight, creating something to mount it
>further
>>>up front or something like that? I have to move the seat forward some so
>I'm
>>>going to redrill the mounting straps and lean it forward some, leg length
>is
>>>fine but the arms are way short. The seat has the raised area for the
>head,
>>>will that preclude me making a headrest? Any help is much appreciated,
>>>Dave Haller
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: John Beckett <johnbeck@blueridge.cc.nc.us>
>>>To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
>>><land-speed@autox.team.net>; David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
>>>Date: Saturday, June 19, 1999 6:56 AM
>>>Subject: Re: Handling & Weight
>>>
>>>
>>>>Dave
>>>>
>>>>Didn't get a picture, but I have seen the car on the Salt. This is a
>>>>perfect example of what we were discussing last week. If it won't handle
>>>>you just can't drive it fast no mater what engine is in it. Get the
>weight
>>>>up front and then make the rear spoiler adjustable for whatever down
>force
>>>>you may require. Don't forget to check Castor, 10 degrees seems to be
>>>>enough for my car.
>>>>
>>>>John Beckett
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 10:32 PM 6/18/99 -0700, Keith Turk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hey Dave... nice car... sure there are folks here who might make a
>couple
>>>>>of comments... the first being the full front air dam...
>>>>>
>>>>>Talk at you in the Morning... my puppies (feet) are dead...
>>>>>
>>>>>Keith
>>>>>----------
>>>>>> From: David Haller <dhaller@techline.com>
>>>>>> To: kturk@ala.net
>>>>>> Subject: Re: New Folks on the List
>>>>>> Date: Friday, June 18, 1999 8:11 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Again Keith,
>>>>>> Thanks for you help with this. I am going to try to get my questions
>out
>>>>>> there and am attaching a picture of the car I just bought from Don
>>>>>Duerksen.
>>>>>> It is the one listed in the Bonneville racing news. I don't know if a
>>>>>> picture attachment will work but I'll try. Here are a few questions.
>>>When
>>>>>I
>>>>>> was discussing handling with Don he advised me the car begins to
>waunder
>>>>>> back and forth over 175. He stated it got violent if he tried to
>correct
>>>>>> with steering and advised to just hold it straight and it would get
>down
>>>>>the
>>>>>> track just fine. When I picked the car up his crew chief let me know
>it
>>>>>also
>>>>>> gets light in the steering over 175. When I looked it over prior to
>>>>>buying
>>>>>> it I noticed a few things. If you get the picture you will see a
>little
>>>>>of
>>>>>> the spoiler. It's got about 5 degrees in it with side plates that are
>>>>>small
>>>>>> and hangs out over the trunk. The front spoile sits low and back and
>he
>>>>>> placed all the ballast, 200lbs in the trunk where two batteries are
>>>>>mounted.
>>>>>> I know things need to be changed. Can you folks advise as to what I
>need
>>>>>to
>>>>>> do to get to track straight over 175? Ideas on front air dam and
>>>spoiler?
>>>>>> Any help would be much appreciated. I will run this car in C/GALT. It
>is
>>>>>> making a little over 600 hp on gas.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dave Haller
>>>>>> Car 93
>>>>>> McCleary, Washington
>>
>>>Attachment Converted: "c:\eudora\attach\P0000681.jpg"
>>>
>>
>>
>



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