I may be off base,but as someone who just set two records in the "correct"
classes(H/GT,H/MS) and broke two records in "move-up" classes(E/GT,F/MS) I'm of
the opinion that allowing the option to run up classes is good for both the
organization and the racers.It's a lot more interesting/fun to have the option
to break several records than to be confined to one class,paticularly after
towing the12 hours to get to Maxton.As long as the car/bike meets appropriate
safety standards and does not get an unfair advantage in the alternate class,let
it run.Many ECTA records would not exist if running up/over was disallowed.I
believe we should follow SCTA rules for the most part(safety/primary
classification),but this may be a diversion that makes sense.It gives racers
more possibilities and the orgaization more support($'s).Anyway ,I feel better
now.Keep up the good work!
Tim Schoeny
John Beckett wrote:
> Ed
>
> I can see the potential for running the sports cars classes in a simular
> fashion (structure) to the coupe and sedans. I guess when SCTA set up the
> Sports classes there was less interest then there is now. They tell me that
> it only takes three entries to open a new class. So three /GT's with grill
> and headlight covers, running fuel, would fit the bill I guess.
>
> John Beckett
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed Van Scoy <edvs@idt.net>
> To: Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>
> Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 5:49 PM
> Subject: Re: More Points computation ideas
>
> >I'm not running ECTA either, but I'll throw my dog into this fight....
> >Since you are in the creative mode, why not create an Altered Sports
> >class, fuel and gas. You could use SCTA rule for altered sedans & coupes
> >as a guideline. Right now, no sports class can run fuel (but can run NOS
> >with 2 engine advancement), and the modified rules are still fairly
> >restrictive.
> >Ed
> >
> >Keith Turk wrote:
> >>
> >> First off... I am just stirring Poo Poo here.... to provide some food for
> >> thought... I have No say in the Organization what so ever.... I just live
> >> by the rules once they are established.... John Beckett asked my opinion
> >> and I proposed that we pitch it out here to see what you folks
> thought....
> >>
> >> I have talked at length to Bill Mackey and John on this subject and the
> >> final Points is going to be very similar to the means you suggested
> Mayf...
> >> or that is my understanding....
> >>
> >> The Class Jumping.... well I am kinda with all of you on a single engine
> a
> >> single class.... but then Money is Money and if changing classes allows
> >> more records.... well it brings in more money.... and an organization
> >> doesn't run without funds....
> >>
> >> I guess I need to restate a Position here to.... without the ECTA and
> John
> >> Beckett and lots of other folks who volunteer to make this happen.... I
> >> wouldn't be coming to Bonneville this year with a race car... and for
> this
> >> John has gone out on a limb to provide us a venue to race at... lots of
> >> work on his part.... Personally again I want to thank him.... for the
> >> opportunity to race here on the EAST Coast....
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> > From: Lawrence E. & Cathy R. Mayfield <lemay@hiwaay.net>
> >> > To: Dick Jurkowski <lsr_man@yahoo.com>; JAMES CANNON
> >> <dr.piston@worldnet.att.net>; Lawrence E. & Cathy R. Mayfield
> >> <lemay@hiwaay.net>; Keith Turk <kturk@ala.net>; land-speed@autox.team.net
> >> > Subject: Re: More Points computation ideas
> >> > Date: Monday, November 29, 1999 9:20 AM
> >> >
> >> > Keith, you started this thread..How you gonna put it all together? You
> >> > gonna summarize it or what?
> >> >
> >> > I am still opposed to class jumping. The rule book we all live by
> >> prohibits
> >> > it: see I-2 "All vehicles will run ONLY in the lowest primary
> >> > class/category for which they are legal."
> >> >
> >> > I don't buy the argument that class jumping to set records brings more
> >> > people to the event.
> >> >
> >> > I agree that bikes and cars should be separate with regards to points
> and
> >> > championships.
> >> >
> >> > mayf (with less than 2 cents worth!)
> >> >
> >> > At 10:45 AM 11/29/99 -0800, Dick Jurkowski wrote:
> >> > >Lots of good ideas, but don't limit a car to one
> >> > >class only. Let it run in any class the
> >> > >driver/team wants to put it in (displacement wise
> >> > >I mean - if you want to run a "C" motored car in
> >> > >"B" - then do it). Don't establish minimum
> >> > >records either, this is a new association - all
> >> > >of the records will be filled soon enough and
> >> > >they'll start getting harder and harder to set.
> >> > >If a guy goes through all the trouble and expense
> >> > >to build and prep a car and get all the safety
> >> > >equipment to run against an open record - that
> >> > >effort entitles him to have that record if he
> >> > >makes it to the finish line. For one thing, with
> >> > >an eye towards association growth, it will
> >> > >attract a lot more new drivers if they look at
> >> > >the book and say: "Darn, my car is pretty fast
> >> > >and I can make a record in that class!" You're
> >> > >not as likely to attract that first timer if he
> >> > >has a decent 140 mph car and looks at the record
> >> > >book and sees that it's an open record but he has
> >> > >to do 203 to earn that record - know what I mean?
> >> > > And for the 200 club - don't set minimums! 200
> >> > >is 200 - period!! I also like the idea of some
> >> > >kind of points for other than setting a record.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > L.E. Mayfield
> >> > 124 Maximillion Drive
> >> > Madison, Al. 35758-8171
> >> > 1-256-837-1051
> >> >
> >> > old >>>>>>>> http://www.hsv.tis.net/~mayfield
> >> > new >>>>>>>> http://home.hiwaay.net/~lemayf
> >> >
> >> > DrMayf@AOL.com
> >> > lemay@hiwaay.net <<<<preferred
> >> >
> >> > Sunbeam Tiger, B9471136
> >> > Sunbeam Alpine Bonneville Land Speed Racer,
> >> > '66 Hydroplane Drag Boat (390 FE)
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