Dahlgren,
Discussion of a subject is good. Geeez!
I ran a turbo at Bonneville 34 years ago when the subject wasn't even
discussable. It didn't work very well because the user (me) didn't know
what to do with it. But I learned.
I want to run turbos too because that may be the only way I can make this
thing go fast enough with little engines.
Skip in Texas 9:13 AMCST
At 05:10 AM 12/9/99 , you wrote:
>a turbo costs 700 to 900 for a cheap one an a real good one is 2000 and
>a junkyard one is 50 bucks are you serious why not just run the turbo ..
>What a bunch of whiners....Do you guys all hate change that much? Are
>you all afraid of the future? Is this the so called pioneering spirit?
>You seem to have more rules ideas that Nascar Nhra and SCCA all put
>together.. Who will be the first to suggest restrictor plates? Maybe we
>could make anyone that we have to run against have to use one and adjust
>the size to keep them below the record no matter what they do...
>
>is this LAND SPEED RACING or NHRA...
>All I hear is about bringing in new people in to carry the sport on in
>the future!
>Did you think for one minute they were CLONES of what had been going on
>or do not think or have ideas to go faster.. Every one that has all
>these great ideas to stifle the future ought to be raising money to turn
>LSR into a museum instead of a place to set records...
>
>If you want new people they will come with 1990's ideas they will not be
>the curator/custodian to your museum.. what about screw blowers how many
>classes for that or intercoolers how many for that. What a sad state of
>affairs this is turning into..
>
>Hey I have a great idea lets make all the cars 'claimers' like some of
>the dirt track guys do.. if anyone sets a record you can buy the car for
>a fixed price lets say 3000.... That would keep the speeds down.. I
>think at times the thing to do is run for time only is going to be the
>only way to have any fun with something that is a new and exciting
>idea..
>
>If this seems like a flame it is not .. It is a message of sad
>desperation from someone that LAND SPEED RACING was what it said and a
>heads up place where new ideas could be tested and refined, no holds
>barred just pass the safety and displacement and body style stuff.. The
>rest is open to creative thinking...Maybe I was wrong...
>
>Well I have to get to work.. tuning up a 13b Mazda street engine on the
>dyno today in NYC.. looking for 600hp with 22 lbs of boost.. with EFI
>and a TURBO.. if he drove out and wanted to race the car what class you
>going to put him in AA/GCC ?? What size restrictor plate so he won't go
>faster that one of the beloved V-8 in your cars??????
>
>Dave
>Dahlgren a weary racer who is having his conception of LSR is
>trashed...
>
>
>
>Higginbotham Land Speed Racing wrote:
>>
>> I must agree with Ed. Don't change a thing.
>>
>> Besides, the really big discrepancy is between positive displacement
>> blowers and turbos. The horsepower needed to drive the positive displ. deal
>> is put right into the trans input shaft. Wheee!
>> Now trying to control the fuel mixture on an induction system with linear
>> fuel flow and an exponential boost curve is at least tricky but can be
>> accomplished without electronics...........just not easily. Ken Walkey did
>> it with a centrifugal supercharger and the fuel flow followed the boost
>> curve "exactly" according to Ken. The engine certainly ran like the mixture
>> was awfully close. Now maybe he could have gotten a bit more out of it with
>> electronics but there has to be something for the tuner to do (maybe to
>> his/her detriment though). The deal Ken used could easily be used to "fine
>> tune" the positive displ setups too.
>
>read this and think real hard!
>> So I think that if anything is to be adjusted as a result of technological
>> development it should be in the "boost" category. It could be that turbo
>> boosted engines advance two displacement classes. Sort of like it used to
>> be in the nostalgic days (whenever that was).
>>
>> Thanks for the opportunity to join in the forum.
>>
>> Skip Higginbotham in Texas, 9:10 PMCST
>>
>> At 08:36 PM 12/8/99 , you wrote:
>> >I have been following this thread with great interest. My own opinion is
>don't
>> >change a thing. Besides, what do you do with somebody like me that
scrapped
>> >the OEM electonic injection and replaced it with a Holly 4-barrel?
I've got
>> >it!! We devise a new class called RETRO for those people that took a giant
>> leap
>> >backward in technology!!
>> >Ed
>> >
>> >ECTA845@aol.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> It look's like I'll have to side with Doug and John on this one.As I
>> >> slowly work on my Monza for racing I can't not look at the electronics
>that
>> >> are out there.You can bet if I have the cash to use them to my
advantage I
>> >> will.
>> >>
>> >> Thank's Randy Williams
>> >> ECTA # 845
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