List, Keith,
When anyone talks about a cheap, fun, car I think of the three cylinder
Chevrolet Turbo Sprint. "Salt Peanut" Ron and Ellen Christensen ran in 1995.
They set Bonneville records in four classes with that car. The records
still stand. Ron has painted the speeds and the four classes they set
records in on the hood of the car with the speeds totalled to 420 plus miles
per hour. The car was too slow for the 130 Club. The fastest time was
111.513. It was inexpensive to buy. I think the class entries and changes
were a large part of the racing budget. The fun part was it went fast for
what it was and they enjoyed setting four records with it. Isn't that what
we all want? Ron is on the list and can correct my memory of things where
it is faulty.
Wes
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> From: "Keith Turk" <kturk@ala.net>
> To: "Wester S Potter" <wspotter@jps.net>,"John Beckett"
<landspeedracer@email.msn.com>,"Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>,"Dale
& Evelyn Thomas" <bikerschoice@worldnet.att.net>
> CC: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: Youngsters
> Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 10:35:26 -0600
>
>I think we are missing my point and I am missing yours.....
>
>The goal I was proposing was a Cheapy class CAR and not for those under 16
>or without a state lic... Thereby preventing the organizations from having
>any insurance liabilities past which they currently have now.
>
>The main goal was a semi spec racer with limits on spending and Maximums on
>FUN. I honestly was thinking it could be done and racing for under $2000.
>The 300 dollar car with the whatever motor.
>
>Then we have the Children issue... Which is in fact a great way for our
>sport to offer and interact with young people. There is very little cheap
>about the Jr dragsters I have seen..... some of that stuff costs more then
>my Race car. Which would fall just out of the Cheap range.
>
>Instead of me Rambling on.... lets seperate the two issues and see what our
>collective opinion is.... Do we need a Spec Class to bring some folks into
>the hobby that are currently constrained by the cost of a full on race car?
> and is there support enough out there for a Jr Lakester program?
>
>Keith (yeah I killed another computer at home and didn't get to chat for
>another week...)
>
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>> From: Wester S Potter <wspotter@jps.net>
>> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>; Dan Warner
><dwarner@electrorent.com>; Dale & Evelyn Thomas
><bikerschoice@worldnet.att.net>
>> Cc: land-speed@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: Youngsters
>> Date: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 10:26 AM
>>
>> John,
>> Ron Pruitt says the latest version Jr. Dragsters have a dry, driverless,
>> weight to power ratio of 6 to 1. They'll compete favorably with fast
>> Corvettes. Front wheels are offset with one ahead of the other for
>> stageing. They are finding major tire and wheel problems at speed and
>the
>> engines with the girdles in place look like they are gluing the whole
>thing
>> together. The latest ones will allmost do wheelies. Those of us who
>> remember when Griffith Borgeson said dragsters could never go faster than
>> 147 mph would just shake our heads when you see how fast these kids are.
>> They're talking under 8 second 1/8 mile et's. "Briggs and Stratton 5 hp
>> engines" Hah! More like 40 hp.
>> Wes
>> ----------
>> > From: "John Beckett" <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> > To: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>,"Dale & Evelyn Thomas"
>> <bikerschoice@worldnet.att.net>
>> > CC: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> > Subject: Re: Youngsters
>> > Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2000 09:23:10 -0500
>> >
>> >Dan
>> >
>> >Maybe I'm just gettin old. 100 MPH and 10 years old!! damn! How fast do
>the
>> >13 year olds run? Will a 1" NHRA Jr. Dragster roll cage be sufficient at
>> 100
>> >plus MPH?
>> >
>> >John Beckett, LSR #79
>> >
>> >----- Original Message -----
>> >From: "Dan Warner" <dwarner@electrorent.com>
>> >To: "Dale & Evelyn Thomas" <bikerschoice@worldnet.att.net>
>> >Cc: <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 8:20 AM
>> >Subject: Re: Youngsters
>> >
>> >
>> >> I have a kid living down the street who has been doing karts for a few
>> >years
>> >> now, and quite well from what I understand. I had asked his father
>about
>> >the
>> >> Jr. Dragster program and he indicated that the speeds were too slow
>for
>> >his
>> >> son who is doing 85-100 in his enduro kart, age 10 now. A restrictive
>> >speed
>> >> in our environment may not appeal to the kids we are trying to attract
>to
>> >> LSR.
>> >>
>> >> Dan W
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: Dale & Evelyn Thomas <bikerschoice@worldnet.att.net>
>> >> To: John Beckett <landspeedracer@email.msn.com>
>> >> Cc: lsr list <land-speed@autox.team.net>
>> >> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2000 9:29 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Youngsters
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > John,
>> >> > A size limit, or configuration rule would be the easiest way to
>> limit
>> >> the
>> >> > speeds. As far as how much speed can a 12 year old handle?. That
>really
>> >> > depends on the kid. Some are going to be able to handle more than
>> others
>> >> due
>> >> > to natural talent and lack of fear (common sense?). Here is where a
>> >> > graduated or progressive type of license like adults use might make
>> >sense.
>> >> > Just, a weird thought, how about a Briggs & Stratton or Tecumseh
>> >type
>> >> > engines with various type of restrictor plates, based on a license.
>Go
>> >as
>> >> > fast as you can, as long as you use a certain size restrictor. It
>would
>> >> work
>> >> > with any carburetor engine.
>> >> >
>> >> > Dale "Chief" Thomas
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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